Whats going on Leonard, are you sleeping

peter danielsen · Post by **peter danielsen** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:04 pm

I dont mean to rush you....well actually I do...when is new material comming on? We The Secret Brotherhood of Committed Leonard Cohen Addicts, demand our regularly fix.

Dont regard this as threat, but we have ways of making you sing. It can be done the soft way, or we can put you under modest pressure.

On behalf of the brothers

Peter

bee · Post by **bee** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:13 pm

Peter,- Halleluijah, Halleluijah, Amen!!!

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:18 pm

It's supposed to be some time this year, Peter.....is that not good enough!?!

Pretty dang good, as far as I'm concerned, given his average of an album every five years

.

Taigaku · Post by **Taigaku** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:55 pm

Hey, this is news to me!

Guess I've been away too long... New album this year?

Not bad for an old man

~Taigaku

catherine · Post by **catherine** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:38 am

Old and wise, my dear. Personally I like the old Leonard better than the young one and I´ve been wondering why. Does anybody feel the same way and could they help me with this question?

Thanks in advance, Catherine.

Arno · Post by **Arno** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:52 am

father cohen loves us all.... maybe thats it...

other than that, I think that his style has changed profoundly in time... if you compare suzanne or sisters of mercy to alexandra leaving or a thousand kisses deep it becomes crystal clear... or do you like the person LC now better than his younger model ?!

until now I like every style he plays in... lets hope it stays that way

take care
Arno

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:28 am

Hi Arno ~

I have the strong sense that the disgruntled amongst us are going to be very pleased.

Hi Catherine ~

Watching or listening to Leonard at any juncture is equally satisfying for me. However, I do feel I know what you're talking about. Leonard, now that he's older, seems at peace with himself and the world. With that, I am happy for him. He Came So Far for Peace and Beauty.

~ Lizzy

September_Cohen · Post by **September_Cohen** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:32 am

For myself... I really miss songs like Dress rehearsal rags and stuff like There is a war....Father Cohen is cool...but not as much as the Lost Canadian who sang completly overthrown at the Festival of Wight.
And it is not a question of era. I miss the smoky life.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:35 am

I like his intensity in earlier years, too, SC. I love Dress Rehearsal Rag and Please Don't Pass Me By, to name but two. There Is A War and Is This What You Wanted make four.

oliver · Post by **oliver** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:46 am

I feel a little different, i like "i tried to leave you" it was done in 1978, the lyrics are like a warm arm around of me, maybe because it reflects my current stat, who knows if i don't, however first listenning to that song didn't give me much satisfaction, when i found the live version ten years later, on the 1988 live in germany (cd3, song 4) i was stuned.

So his old songs, played after i guess are my favorit maybe just his live material are

!

Ow dear i become a groupy

bee · Post by **bee** » Sat May 29, 2004 12:19 pm

Catherine~ I'm with you. I like the Old Leonard much better, the last 10 songs, I love so much every one of them, except may be ~the land of plenty~ but that also depends on the day~ some days I can't stand it, some days I'm wondering about the the same song. I like Leonard's now voice

He's calm and wise and loving and sad, he is so dear and close, like a man you have loved all your life and you know him so well, you know his strength and weakness, and he's just opening up to you~ and you are so happy and proud of it~ because he trusts you, anyway, I could be wrong, this is just my feeling about it

catherine · Post by **catherine** » Mon May 31, 2004 9:50 pm

Thank you very much for all of your answers, I think what Bee said comes closest to what I feel...

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Mon May 31, 2004 10:02 pm

Yes, Bee, very well said. All of what you have said seems true about how he is now, and the progression of his getting here, and how it 'feels' for us. I look forward to his next album.

Helven · Post by **Helven** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:13 am

I also like “the old Cohen” better. Don’t know, maybe simply because I've met old Cohen before encountering young Cohen (

) and was impressed deeply just by the former. But I agree, Elizabeth, his later works seem to be written by someone who achieved inner peace and harmony – perhaps, that’s what makes those songs so magnetic.

Bee, I love 10 New Songs, too. I’d say that’s my favourite album. And even if the only songs worthy of attention there were 1000 Kisses, Here It Is, and Love Itself it probably still would be my favourite. [Elizabeth, if you remember, some time ago, trying to interpret A Life of Errands, we talked about acceptance. I can say, from my point of view, these songs are something like manifested and vividly present state of acceptance… and real “cure for love”, as well.]

catherine · Post by **catherine** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:01 am

Elton John once said in an interview for his - I believe - 1997 duets album
he couldn´t help laughing when Leonard sang the first line of their duet
"Born to lose", because the voice " that was gravely (?)when he started, had grown even so much deeper over the years".

Besides he said he was and had always been in love with him.
Poor Elton...

But seriously, I think it´s Leonard´s voice that has changed so much as to make the casual listener perceive
a whole different person.

I´m going 2 bed now. It´s 3 in the morning in Germany. Goodnight you beautiful Cohen people.