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Partisan ~
I've been either too busy or too tired to respond to some comments you made a while ago. Doing so requires a different kind of energy. I originally dismissed your comments as ignorant and stupid, and pursued instead my concern for children as victims. However, even though your comments remain as I've noted above, the issue has stayed on my mind. I finally have time to address them as I've wanted.
That line, however, isn't what concerns me most. The first two are. Without provocation, you have hurled ~ in insulting, personal fashion ~ a remark meant to denigrate; the same as a dead, bottom-feeder carp being slung onto a table where people are dining. Neither of us has any idea whether the person you refer to as my mentor takes medication, and it’s none of either of our business. You have no idea whether I do. Remarks such as yours could easily pique feelings of shame, embarrassment, and the feeling of being exposed in one who might, however.
Whether it’s psycho-tropic, anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, mood-elevating, or whatever kind of medications someone might take to address a chemical imbalance, organic brain disorder, or the aftermath of trauma, closed-head injury, or whatever, comments like yours serve only to keep doing so at a shame-based, stigmatic level. They also act as a deterrent to people seeking treatment and/or taking medications as prescribed, as they increase the fear that someone may find out and they’ll be perceived as weak , weird, or whatever, and subjected to various forms of ridicule and mockery.
To see your comments at the end of a posting where you so un-righteously and indignantly reacted, expecting an apology, regarding someone suggesting that you used the word fuck, as though that were the most abhorrent thing anyone could ever say about you [when in my life there was a time when it was included in perhaps every other sentence, and I’m confident it exists in your vocabulary] and using it remains voluntary, a choice......and to then see you take such liberties with regard to other people, at least one's presumed, personal life, and situations that are not voluntary, not a choice, and as a means for you to try to make a trivial and unrelated point, causes me to wonder whether you also think it’s okay to make fun of people who require high-blood pressure medicine, blood thinners, dialysis, wheelchairs, or the like. By doing so, you perpetuate a prejudice against people with mental illness, and other conditions addressable through mind-/mood-/chemical-altering medications.
Many lives are fraught with havoc, chaos, daily grief, violence, and violent endings, as a result of their, or people they know/are related to, not taking these prescribed medications, for any variety of reasons. It’s comments like yours that only act as obstacles, to people feeling that it’s okay to do whatever is necessary for them to live a normal life.
~ Elizabeth
I've been either too busy or too tired to respond to some comments you made a while ago. Doing so requires a different kind of energy. I originally dismissed your comments as ignorant and stupid, and pursued instead my concern for children as victims. However, even though your comments remain as I've noted above, the issue has stayed on my mind. I finally have time to address them as I've wanted.
Your final line, the same as a P.S., is just one more insulting remark about someone, who writes exceedingly well in English. It's your choice to be tacky and continue in the same vein of comments, when you have another choice, that of reading other material by her.I think i may be the last though as you do seem to have got much better recently. I just hope you keep taking the medication, rather like your mentor.
p.
(who is still hoping that Judith will write something in English so he can read it)
That line, however, isn't what concerns me most. The first two are. Without provocation, you have hurled ~ in insulting, personal fashion ~ a remark meant to denigrate; the same as a dead, bottom-feeder carp being slung onto a table where people are dining. Neither of us has any idea whether the person you refer to as my mentor takes medication, and it’s none of either of our business. You have no idea whether I do. Remarks such as yours could easily pique feelings of shame, embarrassment, and the feeling of being exposed in one who might, however.
Whether it’s psycho-tropic, anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, mood-elevating, or whatever kind of medications someone might take to address a chemical imbalance, organic brain disorder, or the aftermath of trauma, closed-head injury, or whatever, comments like yours serve only to keep doing so at a shame-based, stigmatic level. They also act as a deterrent to people seeking treatment and/or taking medications as prescribed, as they increase the fear that someone may find out and they’ll be perceived as weak , weird, or whatever, and subjected to various forms of ridicule and mockery.
To see your comments at the end of a posting where you so un-righteously and indignantly reacted, expecting an apology, regarding someone suggesting that you used the word fuck, as though that were the most abhorrent thing anyone could ever say about you [when in my life there was a time when it was included in perhaps every other sentence, and I’m confident it exists in your vocabulary] and using it remains voluntary, a choice......and to then see you take such liberties with regard to other people, at least one's presumed, personal life, and situations that are not voluntary, not a choice, and as a means for you to try to make a trivial and unrelated point, causes me to wonder whether you also think it’s okay to make fun of people who require high-blood pressure medicine, blood thinners, dialysis, wheelchairs, or the like. By doing so, you perpetuate a prejudice against people with mental illness, and other conditions addressable through mind-/mood-/chemical-altering medications.
Many lives are fraught with havoc, chaos, daily grief, violence, and violent endings, as a result of their, or people they know/are related to, not taking these prescribed medications, for any variety of reasons. It’s comments like yours that only act as obstacles, to people feeling that it’s okay to do whatever is necessary for them to live a normal life.
~ Elizabeth
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To P
P, it depends on the perspective.....................
is it in a balanced brain?
or a twisted and warped one?
Best Regards.......................Georges(Baby)
is it in a balanced brain?
or a twisted and warped one?
Best Regards.......................Georges(Baby)
I am a right bad ass, dankish prince and I love my Violet to bits.
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Eve -
Fun? If "this is supposed to be fun", I ask: Can any kind of nasty behaviour be accepted, just because P supposes it to be "fun"?
Sorry, but whatever it was supposed to be, ages ago: this isn't funny anymore. And, Eve, some may remember it was meant to be fun, but the hundreds and thousand visitors of this site cannot be supposed to "remember"... They can't help but get the impression that "Beautiful Losers" are supposed to be nasty, highly prejudiced folks, seeking warmth from "little children", having "fun" at somebody else's expense, ...
"Choose your battles wisely?" - Well, p, choose your jokes wisely, especially when in public places!
Tom
Fun? If "this is supposed to be fun", I ask: Can any kind of nasty behaviour be accepted, just because P supposes it to be "fun"?
Sorry, but whatever it was supposed to be, ages ago: this isn't funny anymore. And, Eve, some may remember it was meant to be fun, but the hundreds and thousand visitors of this site cannot be supposed to "remember"... They can't help but get the impression that "Beautiful Losers" are supposed to be nasty, highly prejudiced folks, seeking warmth from "little children", having "fun" at somebody else's expense, ...
"Choose your battles wisely?" - Well, p, choose your jokes wisely, especially when in public places!
Tom
Fun with mental health issues. Fun with the victimization of children. Fun with insults to those who choose to express themselves through poetry. Fun at other people's expense. What fun. Sure makes this a safe place for people to feel free to come and participate. I don't share in this idea of fun, and will continue to speak out against it.
On the other hand, there is a lot of wit and good humour on this site. The need to sully it with remarks such as come out of Partisan is not satisfying any need for humour. What personal needs there may exist that result in these would best be "contributed" to other sites, where they would be welcomed and found humourous, albeit in shared, malevolent fashion.
~ Elizabeth
On the other hand, there is a lot of wit and good humour on this site. The need to sully it with remarks such as come out of Partisan is not satisfying any need for humour. What personal needs there may exist that result in these would best be "contributed" to other sites, where they would be welcomed and found humourous, albeit in shared, malevolent fashion.
~ Elizabeth
Dear Sandra,
To answer your original question, I sort of like to think of ourselves as clowns in a circus (I may be loosely quoting Linda from some thread)......but we take ourselves and LC too seriously. More seriously than we or LC deserves to be taken.
p.s. Looking at the 7-0-0 score on the poll we obviously also have very high opinions of ourselves.
To answer your original question, I sort of like to think of ourselves as clowns in a circus (I may be loosely quoting Linda from some thread)......but we take ourselves and LC too seriously. More seriously than we or LC deserves to be taken.
p.s. Looking at the 7-0-0 score on the poll we obviously also have very high opinions of ourselves.
