Muffins or War

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Muffins (lightly toasted with perhaps a little strawberry jelly) or a *just* War with not very many casulaties

I prefer a Just war
15
21%
I prefer just muffins
57
79%
 
Total votes: 72
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Here's a bit of devilishment to have a ponder on. Future History can be quite intriguing. Some of the Comments that follow the article by Mr Ash are worth a read as well, especially the American ones about Hillary Clinton. IndianBritishStudent makes a good case for his homeland too, although it shows up another flashpoint-in-waiting. I think basically that if you find yourself in a room full of gunpowder kegs, you shouldn't start lighting matches to show how big your keg is.

Anyway, here's the article...



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... 32,00.html
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If you read the poll note above this contribution, you'll see that we are asked to choose between muffins with jelly, or war. First of all I'd prefer Rasberry Jam (there's a joke in there somewhere :wink: ) and secondly, don't you think that 'casual' as in casualties, sums up the attitude to the continuing loss of life, as perceived by our leaders?
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Here's a link that takes us back to WWII. It underlines the point that, some of us made a while ago that, the population in this country has been on the receiving end of bombs for a very long time. My parents and grandparents suffered in the Blitz, while those of my generation had regular disruption caused by the activities of the IRA.

I simply want to show that history will always bite you back. One way or another.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 984944.stm
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Now that Pesident Bush has become a Lame Duck President (after he lost the mid-term Elections) how do you think this effects the War v Muffins scenario equation. I am not sure what Mr Donald Rumsfiled's settled view was on this issue or whether Bill Gates will keep or alter the policy.

At the very least I pray that the Democrats (the party now has both houses under control!) will keep a Christian perspective on War, remembering always that "WE ARE ALL HIS CHILDREN"
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So do I, Ms. Paula ~ however, there are many complications, too numerous to delineate at the moment, that keep my hope score from skyrocketing.


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Is Capital Punishment an option which the Iraqi authorities can ponder upon?

Once Saddam is dead, he is no longer able to endure the suffering that he has been responsible for in others.

Put him in a small cell for the rest of his life and ensure that he is 'uncomfortable,' to give him time to realise how futile the rest of his existence will be.

The decision earlier this year, in the USA, to send 'that' convicted human being, into prison for the rest of his life, showed how much more damaging it is for such evil men, to be told that he will never be listened to again, never be in touch with the rest of the world again, and have to live like a caged rat for the rest of his life.

I feel that such a punishment hurts far more than taking the very quick and easy way out.

Cover the walls of Saddam's cell with the photos of all those he has killed. Never give him a radio, newspaper, TV, or other form of contact with the world outside. Every waking hour will be part of a perpectual reminder of why he is there.

He was found in a hole, so let him remain in one.

However, I know that the families of the murdered Kurds and others would not want him to live. But wouldn't it be better to continue with all of the charges laid against him, so that each Iraqi could see for themselves that he is truly evil. Let the courts keep him in the 'dock' until all of his crimes have been publicly shown.

Surely in Saddam's case, Justice would be 'a meal best served cold.'

Whether or not I believe in Capital Punishment is irrelevant here. What is important is that Saddam has to be made totally aware of all of his crimes, before he departs this Earth. Otherwise he gets away with the vast majority of his evil.
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Byron wrote:Is Capital Punishment an option which the Iraqi authorities can ponder upon?

Once Saddam is dead, he is no longer able to endure the suffering that he has been responsible for in others.

Put him in a small cell for the rest of his life and ensure that he is 'uncomfortable,' to give him time to realise how futile the rest of his existence will be.

The decision earlier this year, in the USA, to send 'that' convicted human being, into prison for the rest of his life, showed how much more damaging it is for such evil men, to be told that he will never be listened to again, never be in touch with the rest of the world again, and have to live like a caged rat for the rest of his life.

I feel that such a punishment hurts far more than taking the very quick and easy way out.

Cover the walls of Saddam's cell with the photos of all those he has killed. Never give him a radio, newspaper, TV, or other form of contact with the world outside. Every waking hour will be part of a perpectual reminder of why he is there.

He was found in a hole, so let him remain in one.

However, I know that the families of the murdered Kurds and others would not want him to live. But wouldn't it be better to continue with all of the charges laid against him, so that each Iraqi could see for themselves that he is truly evil. Let the courts keep him in the 'dock' until all of his crimes have been publicly shown.

Surely in Saddam's case, Justice would be 'a meal best served cold.'

Whether or not I believe in Capital Punishment is irrelevant here. What is important is that Saddam has to be made totally aware of all of his crimes, before he departs this Earth. Otherwise he gets away with the vast majority of his evil.


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I found it, I found it, the greatest thread in the history of history.
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mickey_one wrote:I found it, I found it, the saddest war in the history of history.
http://www.youtube.com/?v=jBCiYBMuuxQ
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and there is no better time for the revival of this thread. when you think about the murder of Princess Diana, the Queen of Hearts, the ousting of Tony Blair, and the stubborn refusal of the American so-called "public" to allow George W Bush to serve a third term, this is when we need to reach deep and search our verymost inner souls. I thank the Blonde Bint for her support by the posting of her Republican clip.


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This thread bloody haunts me :lol:
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have you voted yet?

we mustn't rest until there are 1000 replies here.

are you related to Paula, Paula?
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Mickey 1 you are sounding dangerously like Pauline, sorry I mean Paula, Hanson. And yet you failed to mention that John Howard is also under threat (the big three, remember?, coalition of the willing and all that).
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There is a tenuous link. I don't like to talk about that side of the family. Paula can be a bit idiosyncratic so least said soonest mended!
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blonde madonna wrote:Mickey 1 you are sounding dangerously like Pauline, sorry I mean Paula, Hanson. And yet you failed to mention that John Howard is also under threat (the big three, remember?, coalition of the willing and all that).
well, I was perchance a shade cheeky by mickeying her style. yes, Michael Howard was a poor leader of the Tory party here and David Cameron is little better.
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Paula wrote:There is a tenuous link. I don't like to talk about that side of the family. Paula can be a bit idiosyncratic so least said soonest mended!

do you know if your cousin, Paula Hansen, will be joining us at the Glass thingy, or leading us in prayer at the Camden Town thingy?
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