Do Leonard Cohen Fans Favor Sad Songs?
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Tchocolatl
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There is always a kind of apart files when the thread is interesting since the beginning, one thing leading to another. 
Smile! Nice to "see" you here again!
In fact, a real good made song is supposed, like Linda stressed it, to be "understood" on an emotional level, through the feelings it provides without having to hear the lyrics. (if it is a sad song, one is suppose to feel sadness while listening to it even though one does not know the language, and so on for joyous song, etc) Of course when the lyrics are poetry also, like those of Leonard Cohen - it is all the best that one could understand them as well.
Smile! Nice to "see" you here again!
In fact, a real good made song is supposed, like Linda stressed it, to be "understood" on an emotional level, through the feelings it provides without having to hear the lyrics. (if it is a sad song, one is suppose to feel sadness while listening to it even though one does not know the language, and so on for joyous song, etc) Of course when the lyrics are poetry also, like those of Leonard Cohen - it is all the best that one could understand them as well.
Michele,
There is a limit to how many comments can fit on one "page", so as more and more people give their opinions there has to be a page 2, then 3 and so on..... If you want to add something to a discussion thread you simply click on the "post reply" button for your post to appear. There is no need to start a new thread yourself with the same name. A new topic is for starting a new discussion on another subject.
I hope this helps.
There is a limit to how many comments can fit on one "page", so as more and more people give their opinions there has to be a page 2, then 3 and so on..... If you want to add something to a discussion thread you simply click on the "post reply" button for your post to appear. There is no need to start a new thread yourself with the same name. A new topic is for starting a new discussion on another subject.
I hope this helps.
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I did not see the two other threads of Yellowhe.
Yes Yellowhe, même si nous faisons du coq-à-l'âne, you can bring back or switch subjects any time in the same thread.
Let say that you did. I quote you.
Yellowhe wrote
Also I always say that Leonard has a gift to tame, to cure all the sufferings he is signing about. I read that one of his translator, Michel Garneau, thinks almost the same, he was saying that Cohen signing was a way to cure himself, like a kind of semi incantation, semi hyptonical trance. I'm sure we are many to think the same thing, more or less.
I think that this is why I (and so many people) feel good about hearing songs that could be seen as plain sad if only the (wonderful) lyrics were known.
(I think this is why One Bourbon one Scotch and one Beer brings a feeling of feeling good, even if this is a very sad story about I guy that was just dumped by his girlfriend and was getting drunk to sooth the pain. The pain is soothed all right, according to the feeling I have when I listen to the song.)
He himself - Cohen - would have said that he is pleased to think that music won over the nazism. I read this somewhere. Even if "inner feelings come and go" and he may still not think this, well...
Yes Yellowhe, même si nous faisons du coq-à-l'âne, you can bring back or switch subjects any time in the same thread.
Let say that you did. I quote you.
Yellowhe wrote
Yes, Brel does not always sing in a soft tone, like Leonard Cohen does. His voice is loud, when is is "yealin" while signing, "sharp" like a knife, at some places, hard like a rock at others, hurting my hears. Usually I prefer to hear signers (male or female) who are "not yealing". But Brel, well, Brel, hits a soft spot in me anyway. This is personal like we said, I do not ask people to share this. It is just chatting about this.I feel I should explain something one more time. I love Jacques Brel but I feel unhappy when I listen to him. It can also occur in everydaylife.
I wrote about Brel only to explain what I most often feel when I hear Leonard cohen: real happiness even when he expresses feelings that are not always exactly expressing joy.
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Also I always say that Leonard has a gift to tame, to cure all the sufferings he is signing about. I read that one of his translator, Michel Garneau, thinks almost the same, he was saying that Cohen signing was a way to cure himself, like a kind of semi incantation, semi hyptonical trance. I'm sure we are many to think the same thing, more or less.
I think that this is why I (and so many people) feel good about hearing songs that could be seen as plain sad if only the (wonderful) lyrics were known.
(I think this is why One Bourbon one Scotch and one Beer brings a feeling of feeling good, even if this is a very sad story about I guy that was just dumped by his girlfriend and was getting drunk to sooth the pain. The pain is soothed all right, according to the feeling I have when I listen to the song.)
He himself - Cohen - would have said that he is pleased to think that music won over the nazism. I read this somewhere. Even if "inner feelings come and go" and he may still not think this, well...
Re: Do Leonard Cohen Fans Favor Sad Songs?
I don't.Steven wrote:When it comes to your taste in the music of other artists, do you
tend to favor sad songs?
I like a gory murder ballad just as much as a merry irish drinking song.
to paraphrase Leonard, I think it's all in the story of the song. That's what makes it good
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