Poem Analysis

Debate on Leonard Cohen's poetry (and novels), both published and unpublished. Song lyrics may also be discussed here.
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Hi Jen ~

"Partnering"? Is there a song by that title? I'm not familiar with it.

~ Lizzy
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Hi Lizzy ~

I too, am curious about "partnering". I hope Jen comes back to tell us more. I sincerely hope she didn't go for donuts.

Linda.
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If she did, I hope she picks me up a glazed. Then, with both our mouths full, we can discuss this.
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Hello

sorry was just finishing up my exams

there isn't a song called "partnering", but i used a "partnering" technique with dance to show the different sides of Cohen's "Adam and Eve", some of the movements that i incorporated were lifting, but much from the "Eve" side, instead of the "Adam" side which i hope gave a visual representation of a shifting of power and control

anyways, if you have more questions please feel free to ask, now that i have some more free time i am planning to work on more choreography to Cohen's music, and as well i am helping one of th students i tutor with a multi media project on Cohen, which i hope turns out well, i was very excited when my student chose Cohen!

Anyways, that's all for now!
- Jen
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Hi Jen,

That's very interesting. One wouldn't usually consider Leonard's work as music for dance. However, I can see interpetive dance as being very emotional and dramatic.

I love dance, and naturally, the choice of music is so critical. It must be very challenging to 'marry' dance to Leonard's work. I like the idea of 'shifting' the lifting to the feminine partner. Dance pas deux is usually very traditional in its interpretation. However, I, as a private dancer to Leanord's music (I dance around the living room, at times :D - so I can see how the emotional side of Leonard's work can inspire a more advanced approach.

I'd be interested to learn more about the works you use, and the dance techniques. Are you trained in jazz? Classical? Is open interpretive dance more to your style?

Thanks for any info you can provide. I'm interested in all forms of art, and am learning as I go.

Linda.
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Well i actually have been trained in all types of dance, as i have been doing it since i was about three. But i actually went to a fine arts high school to persue modern dance in an academic setting and this is when i started using Cohen's music. Basically outside of school i did the more "entertainment" driven dance like tap, jazz, and ballet, and in school i studied the more emotional and artistics aspects of dance... ( in case you are interested in checking it out there are some great sites on Martha Graham, who is one of the founders of modern dance and one of the most practiced techniques). Basically we were always taught to pick a song that moved you on a level other than for entertainment, and i always found that Cohen's powerful words inspired movements that were unique and different then everyone else!

Later, during my first year at university i chose dance as my major, and acutally took a course incorporating all the aspects of fine arts: film, music, dance, visual art, etc. and we spent a great deal of time discussing Cohen's work and involvment in multimediums, which just furthered my desire to explore his work in a movement medium

and of course its fun to just turn it on a just dance in my living room as well, i get some of my best ideas there!!! hhahahaaha
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Hi Jen,

It sounds like you're getting a very well-rounded education in your area of interest. Good for you. I would have liked to have taken more arts than were even available when I was, ahem, younger.

Yes, I can see now how Leonard's songs would be good for dance in the way that you described re: just grabbing the emotion.

I mentioned somewhere once, that I saw the Alvin Ailey Dance Theatre perform, and the most powerful performer danced to one song, alone, no set, the song was "Been on a Train" by Laura Nyro. It was a song about a man dying of heron addiction. The feeling was there, and boy, can those dancers pick up every inflection...it's truly beautiful. And so emotionally draining that a person could be moved to tears.

Yes, Martha Graham was something of a pioneer, wasn't she. There are many others as well. You're lucky that you've been given the chance to do what you want. You'll find a wealth of inspiration in Leonard's work! For sure!

Linda.
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Thanks for all the information, Jen. You would have enjoyed the presentation in NYC this summer ['at' the Event], by Medicine Show, entitled, "Sincerely, L. Cohen" ~ check out the photos and description, via the link on the main page. Go to the "New York 2004 Event" link.

I'd love to see Live footage of your presentations. Leonard's songs and music lend themselves to so much creativity [talk about preaching to the choir :lol: :wink: ].

~ Lizzy
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