young leonard

[Artsinlife]

I have a bit old-fashioned view of painters as people working on their work for lots of months and waiting to be struck by some flashing of an idea to be able to proceed with their work. So it surprised me that such a work can be done just in 40 minutes

i understand. the quicker it takes to do a painting, the more energy it will emit. da vinci's 'mona lisa' is an iconic painting, but is completely flat and dead - he worked on it over several years. so much care he took, such small brushes he used, so perfect it had to be - and the result is identical to what a camera could nowadays produce in a second. munch's 'scream' was done in minutes, is equally iconic - and one can feel energy gushing from it like a waterfall. it was impulsive, is alive, no regard for details, has expression - art in its purest form.

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.. must admit I have never thought about it this way (I mean relation of time and final effect) , but have always liked Scream just because of that something extraordinary powerful in it.

[Geoffrey]

.. must admit I have never thought about it this way (I mean relation of time and final effect) , but have always liked Scream just because of that something extraordinary powerful in it.

well, don't get me wrong. 'mona lisa' is not bad. if someone came to my door with the original picture and said "here, it's yours" i would accept it with a polite smile, and probably even find somewhere to hang the damn thing - i know how to behave socially - but it wouldn't be the first item i'd carry out the door if there was a fire here, if you know what i mean.

[Artsinlife]

.. must admit I have never thought about it this way (I mean relation of time and final effect) , but have always liked Scream just because of that something extraordinary powerful in it.

well, don't get me wrong. 'mona lisa' is not bad. if someone came to my door with the original picture and said "here, it's yours" i would accept it with a polite smile, and probably even find somewhere to hang the damn thing - i know how to behave socially - but it wouldn't be the first item i'd carry out the door if there was a fire here, if you know what i mean.

Yes, I understand (though it is funny even to imagine such a situation ) Well then, what would be that one you would be proud of hanging on the wall?

[Geoffrey]

what would be that one you would be proud of hanging on the wall?

well, my favourite amongst the so called 'old masters' would have to be 'the garden of earthly delights' by bosch (1450-1516) - even if only for the bluebird sitting on its golden throne in the right-hand section. probably took him a lot longer than 40 minutes, but what an extraordinary piece of work!
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[LisaLCFan]

... da vinci's 'mona lisa' is an iconic painting, but is completely flat and dead ...

Well, it certainly seems so when one views a photograph of it, but the original painting has a very remarkable quality: the eyes! They seem to follow one as one moves across the room, from one side to the other, as if she is watching you! It is quite unsettling, actually, and it gives the painting a rather surreal lifefulness (I know that's not a word, but I mean the opposite of lifeless!). Perhaps for that reason alone I would not want the Mona Lisa hanging in my home: it would be creepy, feeling as if one is always being watched by the artwork!

[Artsinlife]

what would be that one you would be proud of hanging on the wall?

well, my favourite amongst the so called 'old masters' would have to be 'the garden of earthly delights' by bosch (1450-1516) - even if only for the bluebird sitting on its golden throne in the right-hand section. probably took him a lot longer than 40 minutes, but what an extraordinary piece of work!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... lights.jpg

Link not needed, although I am not an authority on painting, as I have already said, there are a few pictures I admire since the first time I saw them and this is by chance one of them, besides Paradise, Banquet Still Life, No.5 by Pollock and maybe some others. All masterpieces for me.

[Geoffrey]

[Mona Lisa] has a very remarkable quality: the eyes! They seem to follow one as one moves across the room, from one side to the other, as if she is watching you!

i know what you mean, a phenomenon that sometimes occurs when the subject looks straight ahead. people have said the same about a talentless speed painting (below) done last year while looking into a mirror - please excuse the beethoven hair

[Geoffrey]

Link not needed, although I am not an authority on painting, as I have already said, there are a few pictures I admire since the first time I saw them and this is by chance one of them, besides Paradise, Banquet Still Life, No.5 by Pollock and maybe some others. All masterpieces for me.

regardless of your modesty, of which i wholeheartedly applaud, i can see you are an art connoisseur. i will hasten to add, though, that the reason for the link was primarily for the benefit of my many fans. word seems to have gotten out that i am currently active down here, as the 'users browsing this forum' statistics show a recent sharp rise in visitors. to many of those poor unenlightened souls now lurking, bosch is simply the name of the man who made their dishwashers

[LisaLCFan]

...i know what you mean, a phenomenon that sometimes occurs when the subject looks straight ahead. people have said the same about a talentless speed painting (below) done last year while looking into a mirror - please excuse the beethoven hair ...

Fantastic!!

[Artsinlife]

Link not needed, although I am not an authority on painting, as I have already said, there are a few pictures I admire since the first time I saw them and this is by chance one of them, besides Paradise, Banquet Still Life, No.5 by Pollock and maybe some others. All masterpieces for me.

regardless of your modesty, of which i wholeheartedly applaud, i can see you are an art connoisseur. i will hasten to add, though, that the reason for the link was primarily for the benefit of my many fans. word seems to have gotten out that i am currently active down here, as the 'users browsing this forum' statistics show a recent sharp rise in visitors. to many of those poor unenlightened souls now lurking, bosch is simply the name of the man who made their dishwashers

Thanks, but I am really not an art expert, have too little knowledge on it. Anyway, I wouldn't be so critic to the browsers here, many people don't like to present their opinions in public; the fact they come proves they are art enthusiasts, though anonymous; I truly believe most of them know who H. Bosch was.

[Geoffrey]

Fantastic!!

a concise and heartwarming response. thank you, my monosyllabic (tetrasyllabic?) friend.

[Geoffrey]

I wouldn't be so critic to the browsers here, many people don't like to present their opinions in public . . . I truly believe most of them know who H. Bosch was.

well, methinks thou doth bestow too much faith on these shrinking violets, but my mood today is one of generosity. thus i am willing on this occasion to afford them the benefit of the doubt.

[LisaLCFan]

Fantastic!!

a concise and heartwarming response. thank you, my monosyllabic (tetrasyllabic?) friend.

Well, my dear Geoffrey, if you insist on a more verbose response to your self-portrait, then I shall refer back to your comments regarding the painting of young Leonard that began this thread. For the benefit of those who haven't been following along, you said:

...i take no credit for the images that come from my atelier. i believe god is using my hands as his tools, for no mortal man could hope to produce art of such divine quality. often, when a painting is finished, i can only gaze in awe at the supremely magnificent canvas before me... in fact it would be more honest of me to sign my paintings 'God', as these masterpieces are indisputably His work.

Obviously, you have a supernatural ability to portray our favourite singing millionaire in a way that seems to capture his soul and reflect his deepest thoughts, as though, for the moment that we are gazing upon your paintings and sketches of him, we feel his uncertainties, his insecurities, his amusement, his joy, whatever it is that you have been able to express so effectively through your divinely-inspired creative gifts.

And that brings me to your self-portrait. By what otherworldly intervention could such a painting be attributed? Does one gaze upon such a striking visage, and think, "Oh, God!"?

Incidentally (and completely unrelated to your self-portrait), considering that you are a self-proclaimed tool, if you do happen to paint a picture of, shall we say, lesser inspiration and magnificence, is it you who is having an off day, or is it "God"?

[LisaLCFan]

p.s. it is "trisyllabic"

[Geoffrey]

Incidentally, considering that you are a self-proclaimed tool, if you do happen to paint a picture of, shall we say, lesser inspiration and magnificence, is it you who is having an off day, or is it "God"?

i don't have all the answers, lisa. nobody does. truth is i probably understand less than most people. i admit i know a great deal, but the paradox is that the more information one accumulates the more numerous become unanswerable questions. it's like sorting out a sideboard drawer; you turn it upside down on the table, people come in and they've never seen such a mess. who is this bodysnatcher creating art through me? what right this parasite has to hijack someone's arms? yes, a clever bastard might he be, but what kind of father grabs his son's rubik's cube, does it for him and hands it back? how can the boy learn himself how to change chaos into order? there are occasions when one does not give help. opening a window when someone wants to jump is not being a good samaritan.

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