Reading the new poems from Andrew, Sandra and Tom it is ever more obvious that we need another comp! They would all be quality additions to those that shared the fun last time. I know Linda is keen as well and our Champion, Liz, needs to write her second ever poem! Maybe Medusafern could be tempted?
We need some refinements on the way the results were displayed. A separate thread for every entry is important so that crits are all collected together. But that can wait for discussion.
First, we need an intermediary, the role Liz played last time, and a Judge. Martine said she was happy to do the judging but I will need to contact her and check as I last heard from her that the trolls were boring her away. Now the trolls are being ignored by everyone (vital to continue this btw) she may return. Any other volunteers/suggestions?
Our Judge can, of course, choose the subject.
regards
critic2
New Poetry Comp.
My sweet sweet boy, have I offended you? Your silence is troubling me. I've reviewed some other posts of yours and it's clear now that yours is a sensitive and caring soul.
My friends, read the posts below. In them we can see an incredible human being, a giving man who thinks only of others. I think you will agree that this kind of compassion is only evident in the very best mankind has to offer. These are almost Hallmark moments.
Take particular note of the "But the expression of humanity is not that convincing when it comes in "dot-by-dot" form." post. This struck a chord with me and suddenly I connected with the "expression of humanity" that I had previously missed in his excellent CD Hotel poem.
If you find that you get a bit misty while reading them, do not be ashamed. I confess to a bit of nausea and found myself taking a moment.
"know that writing is hardly your area of expertise but take your time and make a little effort please."
"Whilst you show no signs of any writing talent yet, it's your time to waste as you choose."
"If however you were ever serious about learning to write you would need quite a change of approach and quite a change of attitude."
"Good Luck whether you decide to learn or you spend your energy on some other activity."
"After all, I still have the massive task of teaching you to write".
"I think that writing out of control invective is a great exercise for you, and may even help you compose better verse."
"There is certainly purpose in writing in clichee or forced rhyme, it can be entry into the comfort club where others of similarly limited talent will greet and applaud you. But the expression of humanity is not that convincing when it comes in "dot-by-dot" form."
"I will make few friends with that approach but it's only the ones who are mature enough to take criticism who have a chance of improvement. "
My friends, read the posts below. In them we can see an incredible human being, a giving man who thinks only of others. I think you will agree that this kind of compassion is only evident in the very best mankind has to offer. These are almost Hallmark moments.
Take particular note of the "But the expression of humanity is not that convincing when it comes in "dot-by-dot" form." post. This struck a chord with me and suddenly I connected with the "expression of humanity" that I had previously missed in his excellent CD Hotel poem.
If you find that you get a bit misty while reading them, do not be ashamed. I confess to a bit of nausea and found myself taking a moment.
"know that writing is hardly your area of expertise but take your time and make a little effort please."
"Whilst you show no signs of any writing talent yet, it's your time to waste as you choose."
"If however you were ever serious about learning to write you would need quite a change of approach and quite a change of attitude."
"Good Luck whether you decide to learn or you spend your energy on some other activity."
"After all, I still have the massive task of teaching you to write".
"I think that writing out of control invective is a great exercise for you, and may even help you compose better verse."
"There is certainly purpose in writing in clichee or forced rhyme, it can be entry into the comfort club where others of similarly limited talent will greet and applaud you. But the expression of humanity is not that convincing when it comes in "dot-by-dot" form."
"I will make few friends with that approach but it's only the ones who are mature enough to take criticism who have a chance of improvement. "
Sound advice to all aspiring poets:
"Just experiment!" Critic2
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"Maybe it will work, maybe it won't." Critic2
Wow.
"Just experiment!" Critic2
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"Maybe it will work, maybe it won't." Critic2
Wow.
Dear Critic2 ~
I agree that a new poetry competition is a good idea. I wish Medusafern would show up, so we could encourage her participation. I don't know that I'm up for attempting another poem, though practice is certainly always good and well advised. I certainly hope that Sandra, Andrew, and Tom will participate.
~ Lizzy
I agree that a new poetry competition is a good idea. I wish Medusafern would show up, so we could encourage her participation. I don't know that I'm up for attempting another poem, though practice is certainly always good and well advised. I certainly hope that Sandra, Andrew, and Tom will participate.
~ Lizzy
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Yes, a new contest would be good. The last one was so revealing, I am sure another one would provide new insights and psychic discoveries. However, I don't think it would be a good idea to have "Martine" as a judge. The psychic conflict for Critic2 of being both contestant and judge will cause a complete prolapse of his brain. His twenty-two egos I am dealing with now will scatter to the four corners of this forum. Not a pleasant prospect. For any of us.
Liz, it is a rule that the defending Champ competes, so you have no way out! Can you "chase" Hillary, Laurie, Martine and anyone else sensible? Tell them the forum is ready to rumble, and that the "no reply to trolls" agreement is working perfectly so the contest is less likely be distracted this time by the babies.lizzytysh wrote:Dear Critic2 ~
I agree that a new poetry competition is a good idea. I wish Medusafern would show up, so we could encourage her participation. I don't know that I'm up for attempting another poem, though practice is certainly always good and well advised. I certainly hope that Sandra, Andrew, and Tom will participate.
~ Lizzy
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My dear boy,
What good will this do you? Really, even now, you're caling people names and the contest has yet to begin!
Will you again enter a dozen poems based on some clever idea or will you enter something with substance?
We really need to get you to that next level. So, I propose that all of your submissions be "clever" free. Pursue that "expression of humanity" that you talk about but are unable to grasp.
I know that serious (or is that Sirius?) writing is not your strength but this will be a very good exercise for you!
I look forward to reading your efforts.
And please stop with the trolls, you are not the only one here with multiple screen names. Granted, none have nearly as many as you.
What good will this do you? Really, even now, you're caling people names and the contest has yet to begin!
Will you again enter a dozen poems based on some clever idea or will you enter something with substance?
We really need to get you to that next level. So, I propose that all of your submissions be "clever" free. Pursue that "expression of humanity" that you talk about but are unable to grasp.
I know that serious (or is that Sirius?) writing is not your strength but this will be a very good exercise for you!
I look forward to reading your efforts.
And please stop with the trolls, you are not the only one here with multiple screen names. Granted, none have nearly as many as you.
Sound advice to all aspiring poets:
"Just experiment!" Critic2
"Just do it!" This message has been classified as spam and will be deleted by the moderators
"Maybe it will work, maybe it won't." Critic2
Wow.
"Just experiment!" Critic2
"Just do it!" This message has been classified as spam and will be deleted by the moderators
"Maybe it will work, maybe it won't." Critic2
Wow.
YDF ~
To avoid an Edit line, I'll post this separately. It merits its own posting, anyway. I had never ~ even once ~ suspected Martine and Critic2 to be one and the same. In fact, I have communicated directly with Martine in the past. The two are quite distinctly their own person. In fact, Martine and Makera were in consort against Critic2 in the beginning, and at some point, Martine denounced Makera. Martine's very sharp and direct in her communications. Perhaps, you should investigate the Employee Assistance Program, where counseling will be made available to you free of charge and without prejudice in your personnel file. The hospital will most certainly be willing to accommodate you in this request, as delusionary psychs can only do harm.
I wish you the best.
~ Lizzytysh
To avoid an Edit line, I'll post this separately. It merits its own posting, anyway. I had never ~ even once ~ suspected Martine and Critic2 to be one and the same. In fact, I have communicated directly with Martine in the past. The two are quite distinctly their own person. In fact, Martine and Makera were in consort against Critic2 in the beginning, and at some point, Martine denounced Makera. Martine's very sharp and direct in her communications. Perhaps, you should investigate the Employee Assistance Program, where counseling will be made available to you free of charge and without prejudice in your personnel file. The hospital will most certainly be willing to accommodate you in this request, as delusionary psychs can only do harm.
I wish you the best.
~ Lizzytysh
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YDF ~
Please read what I write correctly. I said I cannot be a party to......the literal meaning of that would not be that you're inviting me to a party, but rather that I would be the party itself. However, if you hope to be successful in plying your trade, you must become familiar with and exercise your knowledge of idiomatic expressions. It looks like a sabbatical may be in order for you.
As I have work that needs to be completed within this shortened workday, I must refer you with your further communications to the director of the hospital, who will be better able to assist you in your needs. As you know, I am still an active member of the Quality Assurance Committee, and this is quickly becoming an untenable conflict of interest for me.
Your understanding and cooperation are appreciated.
~ Lizzytysh
Quality Assurance
Please read what I write correctly. I said I cannot be a party to......the literal meaning of that would not be that you're inviting me to a party, but rather that I would be the party itself. However, if you hope to be successful in plying your trade, you must become familiar with and exercise your knowledge of idiomatic expressions. It looks like a sabbatical may be in order for you.
As I have work that needs to be completed within this shortened workday, I must refer you with your further communications to the director of the hospital, who will be better able to assist you in your needs. As you know, I am still an active member of the Quality Assurance Committee, and this is quickly becoming an untenable conflict of interest for me.
Your understanding and cooperation are appreciated.
~ Lizzytysh
Quality Assurance
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Dear Lizzytysh,
Please leave the diagnosis to the professional. "Martine" is a necessary projection of Critic2's persona. He needs a "Martine." When his posts do not generate the response he craves, Critic2 invents an antagonist. He then "wittily" jousts with his alter-ego. (This draws in his enemies like "you know who.") But you will notice, that eventually the "Martine's" are won over by his "charm" and become his new best friend. The pattern is very predictable as is his linguistic footprint.
Unhappily, I'm beginning to suspect another persona is a new "eruption."
More anon.
YdF
Please leave the diagnosis to the professional. "Martine" is a necessary projection of Critic2's persona. He needs a "Martine." When his posts do not generate the response he craves, Critic2 invents an antagonist. He then "wittily" jousts with his alter-ego. (This draws in his enemies like "you know who.") But you will notice, that eventually the "Martine's" are won over by his "charm" and become his new best friend. The pattern is very predictable as is his linguistic footprint.
Unhappily, I'm beginning to suspect another persona is a new "eruption."
More anon.
YdF
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Dear Lizzytysh,
Please excuse my ignorance of English idiom. English and particularly American English is not my forte. But now I am more alarmed than ever.
YdF
Please excuse my ignorance of English idiom. English and particularly American English is not my forte. But now I am more alarmed than ever.
It is now my understanding that you are lots of fun. I really must visit Florida. Soon.Please read what I write correctly. I said I cannot be a party to......the literal meaning of that would not be that you're inviting me to a party, but rather that I would be the party itself.
YdF
YDF ~
I see two, alarming developments in your latest posting.
First and foremost is your lack of professional [perhaps, personal, as well] ethics.
The second is your clear lack of understanding of the simple [same in all forms of English] word "cannot." This will remain a serious impediment, in fact obstacle, to your successfully practicing in your current, chosen field.
Please contact the Employee Assistance Program as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Lizzytysh
Quality Assurance
I see two, alarming developments in your latest posting.
First and foremost is your lack of professional [perhaps, personal, as well] ethics.
The second is your clear lack of understanding of the simple [same in all forms of English] word "cannot." This will remain a serious impediment, in fact obstacle, to your successfully practicing in your current, chosen field.
Please contact the Employee Assistance Program as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Lizzytysh
Quality Assurance