No Middleman

Linda · Post by **Linda** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 6:45 pm

I might as well post my little pennies worth here too. I really didn't expect to understand it or interpret it "correctly". But hey, I have seen just as good art work from my grandkids, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and I also love LC, so it is beautiful.

What is in the one little picture under the tree?

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:23 pm

I am gobsmacked that children can draw as well as this. Perhaps my expectations are lower because I am from the Lowry school of art.

Do you find that people who are artistic musically are often artistic generally. As soon as I find what my forte is I am going for it. I can do a soft boiled egg. Not everyone can you know

Linda · Post by **Linda** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:53 pm

I guess I wonder if you had never known who drew it , or I had posted it, would it be as good? Tell me what is so good about it. I totally do not understand art so clue me in here.

Sore Loser · Post by **Sore Loser** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:33 am

Yeah, what is that thing ... it looks like a ladder pushed up against a pair of bunk beds. Does anybody else have a better view of this...how about it Jarkko

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:23 am

I haven't "done" much art, however, I do know that working with colour and design can be difficult, in terms of keeping them in balance, etc. so that they work well together.

It seems particularly with visual art, that "art" doesn't necessarily have to be deemed "good;" how it affects you is just as legitimate. Is it pleasing to your eye? Do you like the combination of colours and how they play off one another? Do you like/dislike the boldness? Do you find the two, dramatically different "segments" of the drawing [the bush and the base] interesting in the way they come together and somehow balance each other [or not]? Do you find it enlivening, soothing, whatever?

Art and art appreciation are very personal things. Art comes from the inspiration of one person, and is perceived at that same level by another person. That's one reason why attending art galleries and exhibits, and traveling with another person is so great ~ you can experience and see things differently than you ever would have otherwise. Each of us has our own perspective, and can point out to the other something that, otherwise, might have been missed; and with so doing, it can then be appreciated.

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:06 am

The Bush is indeed the burning bush which led to the ten commandments
it is very intresting that it is on the great pyramid
But Edgar cayce said it would be so
and the secrets of Atlantis would be from the mayan or egyptian pyramid
East or West
and therefore the new commandments of the millinieum
this is in effect the second coming
out of symbolism
and a greater mystic and occult awareness of mankind
a beautifully simplistic but symbollic painting
and shows wise time spent on Baldy
Georges

Janem · Post by **Janem** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:11 am

Aw c'mon everyone. I think we have been far too serious here, me included. I propose a round of Red Needles before the discussion continues. Red Needles for everyone, O saqi! And let's have music and dancing! Do not approach the computer again until you have broken a sweat from whirling and the glass is in your wobbly hand!

Let the colors spin before your eyes like Blake's psychadelics of heaven and hell!
-Janem

ps Paula, I am interested in your technique for the soft boiled egg, if it is not a well guarded secret. I always get that ring of gray around the yolk which is a sign of too much boiling.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:21 am

If you'll make them, I'll drink the Red Needles, Janem.....as long as you use the full recipe. When I tried making one on New Year's Eve ~ in guess-who's honour ~ the [obviously

] key ingredient of Sprite had been left out of the recipe I saw printed. The result was unbearably yuk. The whirling sounds even better. Yeah, it is kind of psychedelic, isn't it?

eeey · Post by **eeey** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:50 am

More "risk-free" editorial comments....

I went back and scrutinized the drawing. If it weren't for the fact that it's computer art I would give it a thumbs up. It does have a sort of Marc Chagall look to it. Though if I were LC (and yes, I know I'm not) I'd lose the entwined hearts and block woodcut motif.

The poem however, is a different matter. Leonard has once again written a poem that can mean anything and everything...or nothing.

eeey

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:42 pm

Actually, I see your comments as being your ideas and opinion, rather than merely comments on others'. I also didn't realize it was computer art, which I'm not very familiar with, and it's always seemed to me would be more difficult to do [with the different angle for "drawing." Thanks for both. RE: computer art, with selecting colours rather than mixing them; and "erasing" to go a different direction, or start over, being much easier with the delete key than on paper or canvas, it may not be at all more difficult. I know I've never felt as inspired, knowing something is computer art. Like refrigerator poetry [both somehow seem to be the fast-food of inspiration and creativity]. Perhaps that's what the poem is [lol] ~

couldn't resist, Leonard. I'm being facetious there, however, it could explain a lot regarding its elusive nature

.

Unless the hearts and woodcut play into the meaning somehow, they really could be eliminated without loss; maybe put the hearts down near his signature. But now, I'm "telling" him how to do his own creation. When all is said and done, I like seeing the poem as an intriguing, hand-wrought love poem.

Linda · Post by **Linda** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 4:14 pm

Shows how much attention I paid I didn't know it was computer art either, sheds a whole new light on it.
His poem meaning anything and everything or nothing, is so true of everything most of the time.

peter danielsen · Post by **peter danielsen** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:55 pm

We should be careful how we speak about the poems. Just the other night one of my poems maintained that it was hated by everybody. I tried to explain the poem that I as its father loved it, but that did'nt help. The poem wept itself to sleep in my arms. I wondered : What the... why is it no one told me about the obligations being a father to a poem? It all looks so well in the advertising, there the poem never gets a wet diaper, or is naughty, or begins to hide ones socks , or to stare at you from the silent darkness of memory.

Janem · Post by **Janem** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 9:25 pm

You're so right, Peter. And no one ever tells you that a poem can one day grow up and tell perfect strangers the most flawed, intimate, unintended things about you, despite all the care you took feeding it, wiping its spit-up, watching it grow and change. This, after you have given it the best years of your life....

-Janem

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:16 pm

You could always adopt. That way you get to choose. Or just take a friends poem out for the day and pretend it is yours, that way you do not have to suffer when it eventually leaves you. Sometimes I find sonnets are more loving.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:17 pm

You could always adopt. That way you get to choose. Or just take a friends poem out for the day and pretend it is yours, that way you do not have to suffer when it eventually leaves you. Sometimes I find sonnets are more loving, parables can be self righteous if you just want the one you could opt for a monologe. I think it is always best to avoid couplets they always seem to hang around in pairs and can be nonsensical by themselves.

No Middleman

Linda's question

Leonards Picture

We are so lightly here

eeey

Be careful with the poems!

care and feeding of poems