Joan Baez
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YankovicGretzky
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Joan Baez
What's the story behind Joan Baez? Were all of her FOLK songs during the 60s, political? She was voted in the Top 10 on the list of The Top 100 Women of ROCK, but she hasn't been inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yet. Is she friends with Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan? Has she ever covered any of their songs? Are any of you Joan Baez fans?
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John Etherington
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Joan Baez
Hi Yankovic,
Joan Baez has always been politically minded, but to the best of my knowledge not all her folk songs were political songs (I'm sure she sang many traditional songs and love songs too). She helped Dylan's career by bringing him on stage with her, and they had a brief relationship. She was around Dylan when he toured Britain in 1965...you should see the film "Don't Look Back" (D.A. Pennebaker's documentary of the tour) if you haven't seen it. Joan Baez has recorded many Dylan songs including "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands", and wrote two songs about him on her best album "Diamonds and Rust" in the mid-Seventies. I don't know whether she's friends with Leonard, but she sings "Suzanne" on her double live album, "From Every Stage". All the best, John E
Joan Baez has always been politically minded, but to the best of my knowledge not all her folk songs were political songs (I'm sure she sang many traditional songs and love songs too). She helped Dylan's career by bringing him on stage with her, and they had a brief relationship. She was around Dylan when he toured Britain in 1965...you should see the film "Don't Look Back" (D.A. Pennebaker's documentary of the tour) if you haven't seen it. Joan Baez has recorded many Dylan songs including "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands", and wrote two songs about him on her best album "Diamonds and Rust" in the mid-Seventies. I don't know whether she's friends with Leonard, but she sings "Suzanne" on her double live album, "From Every Stage". All the best, John E
Diamonds and Rust (the song) is a classic and as good as anything Dylan himself may have written.
She also has an entire album of Dylan songs and promoted him early in his career - when she was the Queen of Folk - not unlike Judy Collins promotion of Cohen.
p.s. what is the other song she wrote about him?
She also has an entire album of Dylan songs and promoted him early in his career - when she was the Queen of Folk - not unlike Judy Collins promotion of Cohen.
p.s. what is the other song she wrote about him?
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John Etherington
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Hi Sonny!
The other Joan Baez song about Dylan is 2Winds of the Old Days". Here's the releavant lyrics:
Those eloquent songs from the good old days
That set us to marching with banners ablaze
But reporters, there's no sense in prying
Our blue-eyed son's been denying
The truths that are wrapped in a mystery
The sixties are over so set him free
Singer or savior, it was his to choose
Which of us knows what was his to lose
Because idols are best when they're made of stone
A savior's a nuisance to live with at home
Stars often fall, heroes go unsung
And martyrs most certainly die too young
So thank you for writing the best songs
Thank you for righting a few wrongs
You're a savage gift on a wayward bus
But you stepped down and you sang to us
And get you down to the harbor now
Most of the sour grapes are gone from the bough
Ghosts of Johanna will visit you there
And the winds of the old days will blow through your hair
All the best, John E
Those eloquent songs from the good old days
That set us to marching with banners ablaze
But reporters, there's no sense in prying
Our blue-eyed son's been denying
The truths that are wrapped in a mystery
The sixties are over so set him free
Singer or savior, it was his to choose
Which of us knows what was his to lose
Because idols are best when they're made of stone
A savior's a nuisance to live with at home
Stars often fall, heroes go unsung
And martyrs most certainly die too young
So thank you for writing the best songs
Thank you for righting a few wrongs
You're a savage gift on a wayward bus
But you stepped down and you sang to us
And get you down to the harbor now
Most of the sour grapes are gone from the bough
Ghosts of Johanna will visit you there
And the winds of the old days will blow through your hair
All the best, John E
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YankovicGretzky
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Why is it taking so long to get her inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and The Songwriters Hall of Fame? Lead Belly, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan are already in!
http://www.rockhall.com
http://www.songwritershalloffame.org
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Thea
If anyone is going to see Joan Baez tour this autumn then look out for her support as she is being supported by Thea Gilmore, who is quitepossibly the most intelligent Singer sngwriter to come out ofbritain in a while. She has anamazing voice and her songs are brilliant can reccomend anyone to go see Joan just to see Thea
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Andrew McGeever
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Dear Kush,
I've just visited this thread, and yes, I agree with you that Joan's song "Diamonds and Rust" is a classic; one of the most powerful and beautiful songs she's written. It was, of course, about her relationship with Bob Dylan. I saw her in concert two years ago in Edinburgh, and she was wonderful.
Why the obsession by some about Halls of Fame?
Andrew.
I've just visited this thread, and yes, I agree with you that Joan's song "Diamonds and Rust" is a classic; one of the most powerful and beautiful songs she's written. It was, of course, about her relationship with Bob Dylan. I saw her in concert two years ago in Edinburgh, and she was wonderful.
Why the obsession by some about Halls of Fame?
Andrew.
The other song, that I know that Joan wrote about (to) Bob Dylan is this one :
To Bobby
I'll put flowers at your feet and I will sing to you so sweet
And hope my words will carry home to your heart
You left us marching on the road and said how heavy was the load
The years were young, the struggle barely had its start
Do you hear the voices in the night, Bobby?
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
No one could say it like you said it, we'd only try and just forget it
You stood alone upon the mountain till it was sinking
And in a frenzy we tried to reach you
With looks and letters we would beseech you
Never knowing what, where or how you were thinking
Do you hear the voices in the night, Bobby?
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
Perhaps the pictures in the Times could no longer be put in rhymes
When all the eyes of starving children are wide open
You cast aside the cursed crown and put your magic into a sound
That made me think your heart was aching or even broken
But if God hears my complaint He will forgive you
And so will I, with all respect, I'll just relive you
And likewise, you must understand these things we give you
Like these flowers at your door and scribbled notes about the war
We're only saying the time is short and there is work to do
And we're still marching in the streets with little victories and big defeats
But there is joy and there is hope and there's a place for you
And you have heard the voices in the night, Bobby
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
Words and music Joan Baez
To Bobby
I'll put flowers at your feet and I will sing to you so sweet
And hope my words will carry home to your heart
You left us marching on the road and said how heavy was the load
The years were young, the struggle barely had its start
Do you hear the voices in the night, Bobby?
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
No one could say it like you said it, we'd only try and just forget it
You stood alone upon the mountain till it was sinking
And in a frenzy we tried to reach you
With looks and letters we would beseech you
Never knowing what, where or how you were thinking
Do you hear the voices in the night, Bobby?
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
Perhaps the pictures in the Times could no longer be put in rhymes
When all the eyes of starving children are wide open
You cast aside the cursed crown and put your magic into a sound
That made me think your heart was aching or even broken
But if God hears my complaint He will forgive you
And so will I, with all respect, I'll just relive you
And likewise, you must understand these things we give you
Like these flowers at your door and scribbled notes about the war
We're only saying the time is short and there is work to do
And we're still marching in the streets with little victories and big defeats
But there is joy and there is hope and there's a place for you
And you have heard the voices in the night, Bobby
They're crying for you
See the children in the morning light, Bobby
They're dying
Words and music Joan Baez
