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Nick Cave is awesome - I heard Leonard say he was his favorite living poet in an interview some years ago.
Do you listen to the Birthday Party? Some amazing poetry...
T
Nick Cave is awesome - I heard Leonard say he was his favorite living poet in an interview some years ago.
Do you listen to the Birthday Party? Some amazing poetry...
T
its all about light
Hi TC
Rock Rose here not Wild Rose but I'm replying as another Nick Cave fan.
What an accolade to have Leonard think of you as his favourite living poet! - a touch surprised by that maybe but he is a great writer. Have you read his novel, And The Ass Saw An Angel? - a truly beautiful book I'm not too keen on his Birthday Party stuff - I like him in his more mellower moods.
Cheers
RR
Rock Rose here not Wild Rose but I'm replying as another Nick Cave fan.
What an accolade to have Leonard think of you as his favourite living poet! - a touch surprised by that maybe but he is a great writer. Have you read his novel, And The Ass Saw An Angel? - a truly beautiful book I'm not too keen on his Birthday Party stuff - I like him in his more mellower moods.
Cheers
RR
Lead Thou me to the land of the angels, be to me as a star, be to me as a helm.
Hi Rock Rose,
I was raised on Birthday Party music in my punk years waaaay back...nobody could scream like Nick.
I haven't read his novel, but I do have King Ink and King Ink II books of poetry. I can see why LC thinks highly of him.
I was drawn to Nick about the same time as I discovered LC's writings.
He's also a fabulous performer - have you ever seen him (nick) live?
T
I was raised on Birthday Party music in my punk years waaaay back...nobody could scream like Nick.
I haven't read his novel, but I do have King Ink and King Ink II books of poetry. I can see why LC thinks highly of him.
I was drawn to Nick about the same time as I discovered LC's writings.
He's also a fabulous performer - have you ever seen him (nick) live?
T
its all about light
Hi T
Unfortunately Nick has not performed in my neck of the woods for over 2 years and I hadn't even heard of him at that time. I would love to see him live - hopefully I will one day. I believe that his Dublin concerts last weekend were brilliant.
I just discovered Nick around 6 months ago and was drawn to him I think because he reminded me of LC. They both have that rare quality in their writing of touching you deep in your soul. Have you seen him recently or was it in his Birthday Party days - quite different performances I would imagine!!?
RR
Unfortunately Nick has not performed in my neck of the woods for over 2 years and I hadn't even heard of him at that time. I would love to see him live - hopefully I will one day. I believe that his Dublin concerts last weekend were brilliant.
I just discovered Nick around 6 months ago and was drawn to him I think because he reminded me of LC. They both have that rare quality in their writing of touching you deep in your soul. Have you seen him recently or was it in his Birthday Party days - quite different performances I would imagine!!?
RR
Lead Thou me to the land of the angels, be to me as a star, be to me as a helm.
Hey RR
The last time I saw Nick was in 1994 Lollapalooza tour - Previously I saw him in vancouver at a small club in 1988. He has certainly evolved as an artist over the years.
I love his recent work as well as his old stuff with the BP. Beautiful to watch on stage and a very kind and generous person up close.
I imagine LC is the same way - very graceful beings.
T
Have you read Nicks poetry?
The last time I saw Nick was in 1994 Lollapalooza tour - Previously I saw him in vancouver at a small club in 1988. He has certainly evolved as an artist over the years.
I love his recent work as well as his old stuff with the BP. Beautiful to watch on stage and a very kind and generous person up close.
I imagine LC is the same way - very graceful beings.
T
Have you read Nicks poetry?
its all about light
How are you T?
Yep, I would agree with you that both are graceful beings. I have never seen Leonard live either but I have seen some concert footage on TV of him. It struck me that he builds up a wonderful rapport with his audienceand takes the time to introduce the next song with some narrative which I feel truly brings the lyrics to life. Does Nick do that?
I've seen video clips of Nick - you know I particularly love the video of The Ship Song which features all the little girls dressed up looking like fairies. I know Nick doesn't like it, he said that he felt that the adults and children didn't look comfortable together and also that he was having a bad hair day when it was filmed!!! - but I think it works well. It's such a terrific song.
I haven't read any of Nick's poetry although I guess that you could term his lyrics poetry. Have you a favourite bit you could quote me?
Have you read any of Leonard's poetry?
As to my 'neck of the woods' welllll - I like to keep a 'little mystery' so I'm not going to say
RR
Yep, I would agree with you that both are graceful beings. I have never seen Leonard live either but I have seen some concert footage on TV of him. It struck me that he builds up a wonderful rapport with his audienceand takes the time to introduce the next song with some narrative which I feel truly brings the lyrics to life. Does Nick do that?
I've seen video clips of Nick - you know I particularly love the video of The Ship Song which features all the little girls dressed up looking like fairies. I know Nick doesn't like it, he said that he felt that the adults and children didn't look comfortable together and also that he was having a bad hair day when it was filmed!!! - but I think it works well. It's such a terrific song.
I haven't read any of Nick's poetry although I guess that you could term his lyrics poetry. Have you a favourite bit you could quote me?
Have you read any of Leonard's poetry?
As to my 'neck of the woods' welllll - I like to keep a 'little mystery' so I'm not going to say
RR
Lead Thou me to the land of the angels, be to me as a star, be to me as a helm.
Howdy RR,
"Yonder go Huck, minus pocket watch an' wallet gone,
Skin shrink wraps his skeleton.
No wonder he got thinner, wot with his cold 'n' skinny dinners!
Saint Huck-a-Saint Elvis, Saint Huck-a-Saint Elvis
O you remember the song ya used to sing-a-long
Shifting the river-trade on that ol steamer
Life is just a dream!
But ya traded in the mighty Ol' Man River
For the dirty ol' Latrine..."
-excerpt from Saint Huck - Nick Cave
So actually Nick's poetry are his songs and vice versa - he modifies some words to fit but otherwise he publishes his lyrics as poems - which as you said - they are....
Have you read Nick's letter to MTV when he turned down his nomination?
It is so beautiful and eloquent....and honest.
Nick doesn't really develop a "beautiful" rapport, but he does chat at the audience - the show I saw in the club he stopped after a song and looked at the front row of about 2 dozen people dressed in full Goth - and said
"why is it that no matter where I go you people seem to follow me?"
I have been a huge fan of Leonard's poetry and novels for many years - he was the first poet I really identified with.
Have you read Leonards novels? The Favorite Game or Beautiful Losers?
I hope it's nice in yer neck of the woods - it is certainly beautiful in mine.
Have an excellent day.
T
"Yonder go Huck, minus pocket watch an' wallet gone,
Skin shrink wraps his skeleton.
No wonder he got thinner, wot with his cold 'n' skinny dinners!
Saint Huck-a-Saint Elvis, Saint Huck-a-Saint Elvis
O you remember the song ya used to sing-a-long
Shifting the river-trade on that ol steamer
Life is just a dream!
But ya traded in the mighty Ol' Man River
For the dirty ol' Latrine..."
-excerpt from Saint Huck - Nick Cave
So actually Nick's poetry are his songs and vice versa - he modifies some words to fit but otherwise he publishes his lyrics as poems - which as you said - they are....
Have you read Nick's letter to MTV when he turned down his nomination?
It is so beautiful and eloquent....and honest.
Nick doesn't really develop a "beautiful" rapport, but he does chat at the audience - the show I saw in the club he stopped after a song and looked at the front row of about 2 dozen people dressed in full Goth - and said
"why is it that no matter where I go you people seem to follow me?"
I have been a huge fan of Leonard's poetry and novels for many years - he was the first poet I really identified with.
Have you read Leonards novels? The Favorite Game or Beautiful Losers?
I hope it's nice in yer neck of the woods - it is certainly beautiful in mine.
Have an excellent day.
T
its all about light
Hi thereThank you for sending me those lines of Nick's poetry.
I think his poetic prowess overflows into his novel writing also because what you quoted is very reminiscent of his book, the setting of which is the deep south. It is written very descriptively so much so that when I first started reading it the style was a bit overwhelming. It's well worth a read.
I've heard mention of that letter but have never actually read it. I would imagine that it would have been written straight from the heart as all his writing seems to be.
I have never read any of Leonard's novels but I have a copy of Book of Mercy. Those words have such a great strength and are so deeply emotional. I don't profess to understand them but then again you don't have to intellectualise them to enable you to apprectiate them if you catch my drift?
It's very beautiful in my neck of the woods too - I know that yours is beautiful 'cos I've visited your country (not your city though).
RR
Lead Thou me to the land of the angels, be to me as a star, be to me as a helm.
Well, speaking of Nick Cave, I watched a magnificent film last weekend titled, "Winged Migration" ~ documentary on migratory birds. If you see it, you will never look at birds the same again. I just learned tonite that it comes out on video in mid-November ~ however, bigger-than-life, wide-screen is far preferable, at least the first time around. The memory will fill in the wide expanses, seeing it later on smaller screen. The film is basically French-produced, but is a collaborative effort of many countries, organizations, individuals, and primarily-unintrusive flight devices.
Anyway, after approximately two hours, the ending came too soon, and these magnificent creatures were gone from the screen. The music played on, however, and the credits rolled. As usual, I sat and watched to see whose efforts made this film happen.
I watched through tears [after seeing so graphically how we still manage to be the birds' worst enemy] and was both surprized and gratified to see Nick Cave's name, related to the music. I couldn't begin to tell you which song[s], as I would not and did not recognize him in the course of the film, as I would Leonard's music. "Well, this is good news," I thought on behalf of Nick.
See this film if you're interested in life on earth from a wholly different perspective; and seeing what it's like to be in flight, and to endure the rigours of migration, with yearly flights for survival, fraught with threats to life. The bonus is Nick's music.
~ Elizabeth
Anyway, after approximately two hours, the ending came too soon, and these magnificent creatures were gone from the screen. The music played on, however, and the credits rolled. As usual, I sat and watched to see whose efforts made this film happen.
I watched through tears [after seeing so graphically how we still manage to be the birds' worst enemy] and was both surprized and gratified to see Nick Cave's name, related to the music. I couldn't begin to tell you which song[s], as I would not and did not recognize him in the course of the film, as I would Leonard's music. "Well, this is good news," I thought on behalf of Nick.
See this film if you're interested in life on earth from a wholly different perspective; and seeing what it's like to be in flight, and to endure the rigours of migration, with yearly flights for survival, fraught with threats to life. The bonus is Nick's music.
~ Elizabeth
You obviously found the film to be a very moving experience Lizzytysh and I will certainly look out for this video. I love birds and cannot comprehend why people want to harm them. I know that in some countries it is great sport to trap and to kill migrating birds as they fly over the land, just for the hell of it. Egg collectors are another group that I find contemptible - particularly as it is usually the nests of endangered species that they plunder.
Nick's music has been used in several films. A friend recently went to see a new film called Mr Inbetween and Nick's music was being played throughout that.
It's funny, Nick is obviously very much in the forefront of music and, as I've said I only 'discovered' him a few months ago, what I wonder is how did I not know about him before. I feel that I have missed out a lot and could have been enjoying his music years ago - still I'm enjoying it now!
RR
Nick's music has been used in several films. A friend recently went to see a new film called Mr Inbetween and Nick's music was being played throughout that.
It's funny, Nick is obviously very much in the forefront of music and, as I've said I only 'discovered' him a few months ago, what I wonder is how did I not know about him before. I feel that I have missed out a lot and could have been enjoying his music years ago - still I'm enjoying it now!
RR
Lead Thou me to the land of the angels, be to me as a star, be to me as a helm.
Yes, Rock Rose, I did ~ and 
and 
. There were many ways in which one sees how beautiful and 
birds really are. The footage for it was gathered over a period of time, as in one segment, birds were flying over the water, into New York City, past the Statue of Liberty. The Twin Towers were in the background.
As I kept thinking about the movie later, I wondered, "Am I really going to turn into a birdwatcher?" I can really understand now how so many people have ended up there. To think of some of these birds flying 1,000, 3,000, 6,000 miles is truly unbelievable. Some fly from the Arctic to the Antarctic ~ which makes you wonder, "What is this all about? They coulda just stayed home." I'll get the video as soon as it's out, and I see now that I can get the soundtrack for $13 and change. The tracks on it are:
To Be By Your Side - Nick Cave
Masters Of The Field - Robert Wyatt
Northern Bound
The Crossing
The Highest Gander - Robert Wyatt
Beating Drums
The Return Of The Cranes
The Blue Thread
The Red Forest - Robert Wyatt
Like A Breath Of Air - A Filetta
The Takeoff
Amidst The Factory Smoke
The Glider
After The Hunt
The Paper Parrot
The Swans Flight
Feathers
The Wounded Dove - Gabriel Yacoub
Off Camera
There are dangers other than us to them, but we seem the most heartbreaking, as we are the truly senseless enemy. Were you aware that Canadian geese mate for life? When hunters kill one of the pair as they fly over, the remaining one goes on alone forever.
This doesn't have to do with the movie, but of something I heard fairly recently [I think it's in the U.S., in the northeast somewhere]. Swans were somehow brought in and are proliferating, to the detriment of the local varieties of birds. To resolve the situation, they are shooting the swans, rather than live-capturing them for transport to new locations. Regardless of the cost for such a program, when I think of the billions spent elsewhere and for this-or-that new military device, I'm amazed and heartbroken to see our utter disregard for the value of the lives of these exquisite creatures, and often for the lives of anything non-mammalian.
You sound like many who have come to Leonard "late," yet it seems somehow that you've come right on time to Nick. I may be wrong in that, and I sure know what you mean! Aren't we fortunate that the old albums and cd's don't just disappear? Think how it must have been in pre-recording days, when Live appearances were the only option, and you became privy to someone wonderful just prior to their death . When I get the soundtrack, the first song of interest will be Nick Cave's. My exposure to him has been limited, but it looks like I may end up getting something of just him. [Now I'm sounding like a new one to Leonard , but is there a particular album/cd you'd recommend?]
~ Elizabeth
and and . There were many ways in which one sees how beautiful and birds really are. The footage for it was gathered over a period of time, as in one segment, birds were flying over the water, into New York City, past the Statue of Liberty. The Twin Towers were in the background. As I kept thinking about the movie later, I wondered, "Am I really going to turn into a birdwatcher?"
I can really understand now how so many people have ended up there. To think of some of these birds flying 1,000, 3,000, 6,000 miles is truly unbelievable. Some fly from the Arctic to the Antarctic ~ which makes you wonder, "What is this all about? They coulda just stayed home." I'll get the video as soon as it's out, and I see now that I can get the soundtrack for $13 and change. The tracks on it are:To Be By Your Side - Nick Cave
Masters Of The Field - Robert Wyatt
Northern Bound
The Crossing
The Highest Gander - Robert Wyatt
Beating Drums
The Return Of The Cranes
The Blue Thread
The Red Forest - Robert Wyatt
Like A Breath Of Air - A Filetta
The Takeoff
Amidst The Factory Smoke
The Glider
After The Hunt
The Paper Parrot
The Swans Flight
Feathers
The Wounded Dove - Gabriel Yacoub
Off Camera
There are dangers other than us to them, but we seem the most heartbreaking, as we are the truly senseless enemy. Were you aware that Canadian geese mate for life? When hunters kill one of the pair as they fly over, the remaining one goes on alone forever.
This doesn't have to do with the movie, but of something I heard fairly recently [I think it's in the U.S., in the northeast somewhere]. Swans were somehow brought in and are proliferating, to the detriment of the local varieties of birds. To resolve the situation, they are shooting the swans, rather than live-capturing them for transport to new locations. Regardless of the cost for such a program, when I think of the billions spent elsewhere and for this-or-that new military device, I'm amazed and heartbroken to see our utter disregard for the value of the lives of these exquisite creatures, and often for the lives of anything non-mammalian.
You sound like many who have come to Leonard "late," yet it seems somehow that you've come right on time to Nick. I may be wrong in that, and I sure know what you mean! Aren't we fortunate that the old albums and cd's don't just disappear? Think how it must have been in pre-recording days, when Live appearances were the only option, and you became privy to someone wonderful just prior to their death
. When I get the soundtrack, the first song of interest will be Nick Cave's. My exposure to him has been limited, but it looks like I may end up getting something of just him. [Now I'm sounding like a new one to Leonard , but is there a particular album/cd you'd recommend?]~ Elizabeth