Leonard Cohen Walking Weekend, or Isn't It A Long Way Down?

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Ken, yes I hope and expect that this ridiculous plan will be blocked.

Unfortunately, Rhodri Morgan, leader of the Welsh Assembly, cares little for the environment. It was only fierce local opposition and a just-in-time change of council that blocked a planned rugby academy and hotel/housing development on a greenfield site on my doorstep four years ago. And Mr Morgan last year said global warming might be a good thing for the climate in Wales!!!!
The Welsh government, which has offered to meet Pugh, told the BBC that the plan would have minimal environmental impact and emphasises “sustainable development in sympathy with the local area and community”.
That eight letter word beginning with B springs to mind.

The runway at Llanbedr is long enough for a Boeing 747. If this did go through I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with passenger jets landing there with a few years.

No, you're right: It could never happen.

What form should our demonstration take? Shall we paint a giant poem on the runway?
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Sounds like a great idea. Please add me to the list too.
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You're on the list, Freshly Cut. 'Case you haven't read the entire thread, this weekend will now take place next year, date to be sorted out once (if) Leonard's extra tour dates are announced.
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William wrote:Dear Diane,
Glad to see common sense has got the better part of valour/hysteria. :roll:
No one in his/her right mind would venture into the Welsh Hills without at least two shotguns. 8)
Nice idea, putting it off till next year, allows it to fade gently from memory without any great embarrassment to the Welsh coven. :oops:
God bless,
William
PS You mention the uncertainty of Leonard's tour plans. Good heaven's, you didn't expect him to join you, did you? :cry:
PPS What had you up at such an unearthly hour last Saturday? Were the natives revolting? :evil:
Exactly wht did you mean by your comments Dear William?
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Hi Kwills, wecome to the forum :) . You live in Porthmadog? You lucky person. Look forward to meeting you when when we all come up there. We know it can be hard to find people who have heard of or like Leonard Cohen, although that can change pretty rapidly if you stick around here and come to some of the meets or events. Are the vegeburgers any good in the Madog takeaway?
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Please can any new people who are interested in this weekend PM or email me your email address so that you can be included in future group emails. Thanks.
efc

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Diane wrote:Please can any new people who are interested in this weekend PM or email me your email address so that you can be included in future group emails. Thanks.
I've just sent you a PM.

Rob
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A Property article on Portmeirion, and the area, from yesterday's Telegraph. but it's not just about buildings - and mentions that a new series of the Prisoner is on it's way. The link will take you to the article photos:

“The Prisoner: The Portmeirion enigma

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 12/07/2008

The remake of The Prisoner will capture the imagination of a new generation of fans. Could the cult TV series help this North Wales neighbourhood escape the property slowdown? Graham Norwood reports
"I am not a number. I am a free man."


First-time round: Patrick McGoohan and Virginia Maskell (top, right) in the first episode of The Prisoner, which was set in Portmeirion (top left); the village, hotel and estuary and the central square at Portmeirion (above)
The Prisoner's famous cri de coeur - plus his other catchphrases, "By hook or by crook" and "Be seeing you" - are set for a reprise in an ITV remake of the enigmatic show next year.
Sir Ian McKellen will play the sinister Number Two, who controls the mysterious place known as The Village, while Passion of the Christ star Jim Caviezel will be Number Six, who is trapped there.
Portmeirion, in North Wales, was the setting for The Village in the orginal 1960s series; estate agents hope the remake will bring fame and fortune back to the surrounding area.
It is 40 years since the final baffling episode of the allegorical production. Its cult status grew as puzzled viewers concocted their own theories about the meaning of the series; many rang ITV in fury, unable to make sense of it at all. But one thing they did like: the Italianate town of Portmeirion, the backdrop to the series, unknown to most Britons until The Prisoner's creator and original Number Six Patrick McGoohan put the Snowdownia coastal resort on the map.
While you cannot live permanently in Portmeirion (there are self-catering cottages and hotels for short-term stays), it is surrounded by attractive property -- and fabulous landscape.
"For a decade before the show we ticked over with 50,000 visitors a year. In 1968, the figure doubled, entirely because of The Prisoner. Now it is more than 225,000 a year, and we still host an annual reunion of Six Of One, the show's official fan club," says Robin Llywelyn, managing director of Portmeirion Village and grandson of Clough Williams-Ellis, the architect and designer who built the village in 1925.
Most Portmeirion houses are small, higgledy-piggledy, pastel-coloured and clustered around neat cobbled squares. There is also a central piazza, ornate gardens, a castle and a neatly maintained coastline - although there is no sign of the vast bouncing ball, seen so often when The Prisoner tried to escape in the 1960s.
The 170-acre site includes a hotel and 17 cottages, as well as woodland and farmland. The only residents today are guests staying at the hotel or those enjoying a taste of Patrick McGoohan's captivity by hiring one of the holiday cottages for a week.
The last long-term resident was Max Hora, a Prisoner devotee who has been writing articles about the show for 40 years. He lived in Portmeirion for 16 years while running a shop selling merchandise based on Number Six. He describes his status as "a former village inmate" - McGoohan would be proud of him.


The round house at Portmeirion, where fans can buy souvenirs of the show
"The oldest houses were not well built because Clough Williams-Ellis didn't have much money when he commissioned the village. Walls were thin and there was a cheapish feel. But later houses were much better," says Hora, who now lives in Herefordshire.
"Yet it was charming living somewhere unique. Williams-Ellis said he wanted Portmeirion to be 'a home for fallen buildings', rather like Victorian Britain had homes for fallen women.
And that is what it is, a collection of designs you won't see elsewhere.
"Around one corner you would find a Buddah, in another there were Mediterranean flourishes. I loved that eccentricity." The village has been spruced up extensively in recent years. The Williams-Ellis family has secured National Lottery funding to preserve the original design while bringing the hotel facilities and the newly renovated castle into the 21st century.
But while The Prisoner's popularity is evident - when you visit the village today you can occasionally spot a fan daring to walk around rather self-consciously in Number Six's trademark piped blazer - the wider neighbourhood reflects the problems of the real world.

"We are often asked by buyers if there are homes for sale near to or with views of The Village, although even The Prisoner probably couldn't immediately resuscitate the current market," says a spokesman for Bob Parry estate agency in nearby Porthmadog.
Other local estate agencies certainly hope the remake breathes new life into the area. One agency has just folded as a result of the slowdown, while another has had a property on sale for more than 18 months without finding a buyer. Gwynedd, the county in which Portmeirion sits, saw prices fall by 3.4 per cent in the three months to the end of May, according to the Land Registry.
More recent data for all of Wales, produced by the Nationwide building society, shows prices for the whole country have slumped by an average of 7.6 per cent over the past year. Nationwide says that this leaves its average home price lower than Scotland's for the first time since 2001, and makes it the cheapest of the UK's four home nations (see Edmund Conway's Word on the Street, right).
It is rumoured that the remake, which is due to be broadcast in 2009, will include scenes shot in Namibia and South Africa. But it is Portmeirion that will forever be identified with The Prisoner even if much of the remake is filmed elsewhere.
John Vaughan, now the head of public relations at Savills estate agency, was a teenage extra in one episode of the original show.
"My family knew the Williams-Ellis family and we lived close by. I had to drive a Mini Moke into a village square and then run away looking scared," he recalls.
"It was lovely being in Portmeirion, which is a very elegant, unusual, upmarket place. It was a thrill working with Patrick McGoohan.
"He was a real star," he adds, "but so very smooth, wearing types of suits you don't see any more."
http://www.portmeirion-village.com
Six of one, half dozen of the other?
In The Prisoner, Patrick McGoohan famously hated the number 6 and tried to remove it from his front door in The Village. But he is not the only one to be superstitious about house numbers:
• Some apartment blocks in Shanghai have floors 12, 12a and 14 - not 13
• One buyer at The Belvedere, a luxury development in London's Chelsea Harbour, has won permission to change his apartment's number from 14 to "lucky'' 888;
• Feng shui advocates avoid the number four as its Cantonese pronunciation sounds like the word death;
• Manor House Drive in leafy Brondesbury Park, north London, has no number 13;
• Estate agents in Chinatowns in the cities of London, Edinburgh and Manchester say most Chinese clients prefer even-number homes "as good luck comes in pairs";
• A Dubai block of 800 flats does not have a number 666.
For sale: Homes to captivate you...
Grand mansion, Portmeirion


Bodfean Hall is a 16th-century Grade II-listed mansion, about 15 miles from Portmeirion. The building was re-fashioned in the first half of the 20th century using Clough Williams-Ellis designs. It is described as one of the best houses in North Wales. For sale at £1.75 million. Savills: 01244 323232, http://www.savills.co.uk
Fisherman's Cove, Portmadog


Fisherman's Cove is an apartment, former fishing-tackle shop and 35ft vessel wharf mooring in Portmadog, near Portmeirion. There is an office, kitchen and meeting room with a balcony overlooking the Madog estuary. The flat has an open-plan living room and two bedrooms. For sale at £495,000. Carter Jonas: 01248 362536, http://www.carterjonas.co.uk
Holiday cottages, Bach Wen


Bach Wen is a three-bedroom farmhouse with views over Caernarfon Bay, about 13 miles from Portmeirion. It comes with nine acres of land, a private beach, lots of outbuildings and nine holiday cottages including The Granary (above). For sale in its entirety for £1.5million. Humberts: 01823 331234, http://www.humberts.co.uk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/mai ... xml&page=2
Diane

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efc wrote: Bodfean Hall is a 16th-century Grade II-listed mansion, about 15 miles from Portmeirion. The building was re-fashioned in the first half of the 20th century using Clough Williams-Ellis designs. It is described as one of the best houses in North Wales. For sale at £1.75 million. Savills: 01244 323232, http://www.savills.co.uk
Fisherman's Cove, Portmadog
I quite like the sound of that one, Rob. If we each put up about £70,000, we'll have our accommodation sorted. Then all we need to do is wait for the next property boom, sell up, and that should fund the next LC Tour.
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That sounds like a plan Diane :D

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I was conceived half-way up a Welsh mountain not far from Port Meirion (in my mind it will always be two words) and used to visit it regularly as a child, long before the Prisoner. Some of the village I found frightening, such as the petrol pump with a head on top of it, and the staircases that led nowhere. But I really loved playing on the stone ship.

What nobody seems to have mentioned is that Port Meirion was an artists' colony. Clough Williams-Ellis let writers and painters stay there free in exchange for help building and renovating the houses ... which is the real reason so many of them were constructed so poorly!

I was a schoolboy when the Prisoner was first broadcast, and remember getting much respect from my friends for being able to identify the location of The Village immediately!
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Can't wait to get there. I hope the organizers of the walking tour are still keen to make this possible.
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I think it was originally going to be this weekend.

Henning,
There are plans to do it next Spring so it's not been forgotten. I will try to do a little countryside walk this weekend to compensate, as I can't be with you in Berlin :(

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Henning, have a little patience. Also have a great Berlin weekend!
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