Songs of Love and Hate - should it have a warning?

[mickey_one]

I would also like you publicly to admit that during the rest of the Philip Glass gig I beat you at Scissor Stone and Paper, Battleships, Monopoly, and Rugby. To bang on and on about your sole "success" is to distort the overall picture, which clearly emerged, of me being the Champion of Rear Stalls Row V.

Now Michael I don't want to tell tales but really the sacrifice I made in letting you beat me at all these games during the show was so that you didn't spoil the show for everybody else. Your insistence that the audience would really appreciate your rendition of Bird on a Wire whilst you performed a shadow puppet show on the big screen meant that I had to distract you somehow, and I am pretty sure that I beat you at Rugby anyway.

Joney, your delusions are well composed but reveal a worrying insecurity. First, the audience greatly appreciated the shadow puppet show and secondly, as you bloody well know your last "try" was not over the line, so I won 23 points to 21,

Lord Mickey of One

OFFICIAL BARBICAN GAMES CHAMPION 2007

[mickey_one]

I accept your worship of my various positions.

Lord Mickey of One

Oh my, Mister Mike you're thinking quite highly of yourself - I'll blame it on altitude sickness.

SORRY, CAN'T HEAR YOU DOWN THERE...WHAT DID YOU SAY?

[John Etherington]

Hi Mickey (underscore) one,

As Arthur Lee says (in "The Red Telephone"):

Sometimes I deal with numbers
And if you wannna count me
Count me out.

Cheers, John E

[mickey_one]

Hi Mickey (underscore) one,

As Arthur Lee says (in "The Red Telephone"):

Sometimes I deal with numbers
And if you wannna count me
Count me out.

Cheers, John E

I thought of going, a while back, to the performance of Forever Changes; but I decided not to as the album hangs together so well. what if they messed it up live? also I may not have been able to jump the dreadful line about "oh, the snot has caked against my pants", whereas at home I always simply push the stylus (as we all obviously do as Bird On The Wire looms, 2.1 L C points)

Lord Mickey of One (2,3, testing)

[John Etherington]

Hi Mickey,

The "Forever Changes"concert with Love and the Stockholm Strings 'n Horns was so superb (and true to the original) that I saw it five times. Sadly, now that Arthur's departed, the closest you'll get to seeing it is the Glastonbury video, which is better than the RFH one.

"The snot has caked against my pants" was Arthur telling it like it was...in a presumably very stoned state, he passed-out and woke to find that he had drooled on his trousers! I wish people wouldn't take that line out of context...actually "Live and Let Live" is one of my favourite tracks on the album, and a very moving song about the plight of the American indians (40th Anniversary alternative version of "Forever Changes" with out-takes is released this month, by the way).

All good things, John E

[John Etherington]

By the way (and I've mentioned this before), Mike Randle from Love told me that Leonard turned-up to see one of their shows a few years ago. I wonder if this was because Mike copied the "Death of a Ladies Man" cover on his own first album (which apparently Leonard found to be highly amusing).

All good things, John E

[mickey_one]

Hi Mickey,

The "Forever Changes"concert with Love and the Stockholm Strings 'n Horns was so superb (and true to the original) that I saw it five times. Sadly, now that Arthur's departed, the closest you'll get to seeing it is the Glastonbury video, which is better than the RFH one.

"The snot has caked against my pants" was Arthur telling it like it was...in a presumably very stoned state, he passed-out and woke to find that he had drooled on his trousers! I wish people wouldn't take that line out of context...actually "Live and Let Live" is one of my favourite tracks on the album, and a very moving song about the plight of the American indians (40th Anniversary alternative version of "Forever Changes" with out-takes is released this month, by the way).

All good things, John E

Dear Man with The Best Signature on this Board,

hey, I'm envious. I should have gone! I saw how well reviewed it was.
The Snot Debate, yes I understand how you see it. I just have a "yuk limit" and that passes it!

The only one of this kind of gig that I went to was Tindersticks, excellent.

All better things, Michael

[Gerrida]

Sorry, what does this have to do with Songs of Love and Hate - should it have a warning?

Have I missed out something?

[John Etherington]

Hi Gerrida,

If you read from my last message on the previous page through my exchanges with Mickey, you'll see how this has temporarily metamorphosed into a "Songs of Love" thread! However if you read my previous post on this page, you'll see that there is a Leonard link, here. Come to think of it, "Songs of Love and Hate" would not have been a bad alternate title for "Forever Changes" . Due to the bad vibes in the band at that time, it has been said that Love could more appropriately have been called "Hate". Apart from being two of the best albums of all time, Leonard's "Songs of Love and Hate" and "Love's Forever Changes" have a similarity in that they are both albums that combine beauty with menace.

Love on Earth Must Be! John E

[mickey_one]

Sorry, what has all this to do with Songs of Love and Hate - should it have a warning?

10p in the Technical Box, please

[friscogrl]

Isn't it ironic that Songs of Love and Hate is the only album with a cover picture of Leonard smiling?

[Grecian man]

Well spotted friscogrl its definitely his darkest work
last night i gave a Love and Hate cd to a visiting friend
( of course i had another copy )
Think he'll b looking 4 tickets soon ??????

[Stranger]

I always preferred the first three albums, especially # 1 and 3) above all that followed. I am slightly re-appraising that now after attending concerts of his current tour, but once that overwhelming feeling has gone I am sure I will return to his earliest work, that for me represent the essential LC. Of the three I also found SOL&H the darkest, most intense album and played it continuously during my first college years (1972 - 74). Especially famous blue raincoat and love calls you by your name were/are my favourites. A pity that he didn't sing any song from this album at the recent concerts that I attended. That is probably because open fields with standing places only don't give these songs the intimate atmosphere they need.