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I really find the blind admiration for Dylan, his cohort of believers, quite ridiculous, sorry... musically, he is a poor thing, there are at least 7 or 8 songwriters much more better (not in the english spoken world, in this world I agree that Dylan may be in a third or forth place; the first is arguably for Cohen)

I just heard Suzanne from the upcoming remaster and it sounds great.

timnor wrote:The Songs of Love and Hate reissue features one bonus track, an early version of “Dress Rehearsal Rag” from the previous LP.

Surprised no-one spotted the mistake.

I think they mean that it was originally recorded during the Songs From A Room sessions.

Young dr. Freud wrote:

Geoffrey wrote:The only person experiencing a problem with their mouth is you, Michael.

A shot in the dark. A miss.

"I wanted it to be you.
I wanted it to be you so badly."


(-Meg Ryan's last words
in "You've Got Mail")

"Well, not necessarily. 'Coronation Street' has been running on British TV non-stop for decades - it's one of the most famous and popular programmes of all time - because it appeals to uneducated working-class people - and Britain has an abundance of such viewers "

I love Coronation Street and I am not uneducated. And there is nothing shameful about being working class. Try watching it - the scripts are fantastic !

jerry wrote:I think they mean that it was originally recorded during the Songs From A Room sessions.

No doubt, but that's not what it says. I'm a bit of a stickler for accuracy, not least when it comes to such promotional details. (The worst offenders, though, are those 'authoritative' liner notes inside low-budget 'unofficial' CDs!)

'Coronation Street' has been running on British TV non-stop for decades - it's one of the most famous and popular programmes of all time - because it appeals to uneducated working-class people - and Britain has an abundance of such viewers.

What contemptuous, patronising nonsense. Coronation Street, at its inception, was the first of the post-Kitchen Sink dramas to be commissioned for British TV - at a time when TV producers were finally beginning to take the working class seriously as a social force; and despite it having come to represent something quite different today (and that's a whole other story), it continues to showcase some of best television actors in the U.K. (which is itself due in part to the long established pool of Oldham-based acting talent). Moreover, unlike the third-rate Eastenders, it's boasted some very gifted scriptwriters over the years, including the multi-talented Frank Cottrell-Boyce (A Cock and Bull Story, Millions, Code 46, Revenger's Tragedy (adaptation), 24 Hour Party People, The Claim, Hilary and Jackie, Welcome to Sarajevo).

Happy to have educated you, Geoffrey.

... and, early on, Jack Rosenthal, I think?

Tim wrote:... and, early on, Jack Rosenthal, I think?

Good point, Tim. He wrote for the show from 1961 to 69.

I dropped in on my sister...(the smartest person ever) and she was laughing and laughing over something on the TV. I said, "What are you watching?" She said, "It some British soap called Coronation Street." I sat down and watched the episode with her. It was the one where Stan ruined Hilda's alpine mural. (I haven't seen the recent ones. I only saw reruns here in America...episodes from about 1975 to 1985.) But the writing was fresh, funny and at times, truly moving. And the actors were unbeatable. Stan and Hilda Ogden and Eddie Yeats were my favorites.


YdF

That's incredible, I come here to check for any news on a Leonard concert in Ireland, and find you, YdF, talking about Hilda Ogden's "Muriel", of all things. In the "News" section here, too . That was twenty or thirty years ago, when I used to watch.

Amazing.

Diane

There was a cable channel...I forget which one...that started showing reruns of the earlier Coronation Street episodes. It was so completely different from American soaps where everyone is rich, successful, beautiful and plastic and get amnesia and come back as their evil twin.

I loved the episode where they finally got their float all ready for Queen Elizabeth's Silver Jubilee (I think it was silver) and everyone piled on and then the motor wouldn't start.

YdF

The re-releases are reviewed in the latest edition of Uncut ('Reissues of the Month'):

http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/leonard_cohen/reviews/9641