daka wrote:confetti wrote:daka wrote:Holy Men (and Holy Women) are loved by men and women!
Séan
but is it in the same way Sean? I think not for all the men.
(still no fada, see you found yours)
Go back a bit, Jacqui, I edited my too succinct comment and expanded it.
Séan
I brought it forward:
I could say more, maybe..
There was a time when I resonated with Leonard's growling sensual hedonism as it mirrored my mind/body reality... maybe up until 1995. When I was with a lady Leonard was nearly always on in the background. I remember doing long trips on my harley-davidson with headphones on listening to Leonard.
Then I became a Buddhist and ended up doing lots of retreat from 1996 to the present. I abandoned all music for a long time. When I came out of a long retreat in 2001 a friend in Canada sent me clippings of Leonard, referring to his long retreat and to his 10 New Songs album. I realized this was a new phase for Leonard and I delighted in his very meaningful lyrics and the music. Last year I imputed 'special dispensation' from Lama Leonard and took up the guitar again.
I digress a bit. How am I affected by his sensuality now, I think is the question put to the 'men'... monks included, I suspect. I think I have to say I am still 'resonating' with his sensuality. So it's not that I am turned on by Leonard as a man, but that he ignites the sensuality that is still alive and well in this male body. Sort of a vicarious sensual energy. This is OK in our tradition as we are advised to learn how to 'transform' that energy into the spiritual path.
There is another aspect to Leonard's attraction, though. He is so gentle and receptive and welcoming, and kind and warm and loving, and respectful, that he comes across as very feminine. These are not macho qualities. He is a strange mix of growling feminine holiness!
Séan
If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan