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white men dancing
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continuing the never-ending series of hopeless sketches 
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its4inthemorning
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Geoffrey, a question: Windows changes the photo I see when I turn on my computer almost daily. Today's version was of a tall, narrow bridge winding over green waters to an island. The caption sys it is the bridge to Sommaroy Island in Norway. It is a pretty photo, and intriguing to me since the island does not seem to be large enough to justify such a structure being built (don't tell the Sommaroy islanders that I said this). Have you ever seen this bridge or been to the island?
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PS Liked your "Whither thou goest" drawing, best cat-made-of-triangles that I've ever come across.
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PS Liked your "Whither thou goest" drawing, best cat-made-of-triangles that I've ever come across.
2010 DECEMBER 10 - CAESARS COLOSSEUM, LAS VEGAS / 2012 SEPTEMBER 28 - L'OLYMPIA, PARIS
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
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its4inthemorning wrote:
>Geoffrey, a question: Windows changes the photo I see when I turn on my computer almost daily. Today's version was of a tall, narrow bridge winding over green waters to an island. The caption sys it is the bridge to Sommaroy Island in Norway. It is a pretty photo, and intriguing to me since the island does not seem to be large enough to justify such a structure being built (don't tell the Sommaroy islanders that I said this). Have you ever seen this bridge or been to the island?
hello.
sommerøya (summer island) is far north, way up past the arctic circle. i have several times jumped onto the northbound coastal steamer, but always disembarked at trondheim to stay with a friend - that's the furthest north i have been. the coastline is rugged, and it's a long boring journey, especially in winter when it's dark most of the time. thankfully there are a lot of storms. doors leading to the decks are then locked, and one can be entertained by sitting in the cafe watching cups and plates sliding to and fro across the tables. i can't stand being bored, doing things that take a long time is torture for an active mind. even in summer, the ship constantly goes past all those islands, and when you've seen one you've seen them all. at night one can stand on the deck and look up at the stars, but they too all look exactly the same. this is why shopping centres are the best, lots of different shops and amenities filled with hundreds of people all with different faces and stories to tell - paradise on earth. i hear of tourists embarking on the two-week round trip on the coastal steamer from bergen right up to the russian border and back again, and i think to myself "you poor sods, passively getting pleasure from something so dull!" they probably enjoy it, simple people are easily pleased, like infants, a limited perception of quality.
>PS. Liked your "Whither thou goest" drawing, best cat-made-of-triangles that I've ever come across.
thank you! people constantly write asking the price of a picture they like. i don't relish the packing and posting part, takes time and energy. a usual response to them is "how much do you think it's worth?" - and i give them one shot at it. three were sold recently, last one (A3 size) for $1000 + $100 postage & packing. i believe most people just want to own an original because they like what they've seen, but i suspect there are one or two looking for an investment. the 'cohen with cat' picture is more like a doodle, not a lot of thought or care put into it, the perfect modus operandi in obtaining a decent result - never be serious and try too hard. almost without exception loud reggae music is played while drawing, as this helps prohibit the mind from focusing on what is being done. try it, it works. all i do is make meals, draw, socialise and watch movies. short bursts of sleep are unavoidable, but after an hour or two consciousness returns and fresh vigour is available.
here's a couple of pieces of music that are good - high volume. i can't remember if you are a lady or a man, but from your writing i would guess male. happy weekend!
https://youtu.be/HV46OGU7ksE?si=TqcBJcsH1nOcqVfg
https://youtu.be/VWxwbXLCPnc?si=ZrqAKGTVafoIZC1k
>Geoffrey, a question: Windows changes the photo I see when I turn on my computer almost daily. Today's version was of a tall, narrow bridge winding over green waters to an island. The caption sys it is the bridge to Sommaroy Island in Norway. It is a pretty photo, and intriguing to me since the island does not seem to be large enough to justify such a structure being built (don't tell the Sommaroy islanders that I said this). Have you ever seen this bridge or been to the island?
hello.
sommerøya (summer island) is far north, way up past the arctic circle. i have several times jumped onto the northbound coastal steamer, but always disembarked at trondheim to stay with a friend - that's the furthest north i have been. the coastline is rugged, and it's a long boring journey, especially in winter when it's dark most of the time. thankfully there are a lot of storms. doors leading to the decks are then locked, and one can be entertained by sitting in the cafe watching cups and plates sliding to and fro across the tables. i can't stand being bored, doing things that take a long time is torture for an active mind. even in summer, the ship constantly goes past all those islands, and when you've seen one you've seen them all. at night one can stand on the deck and look up at the stars, but they too all look exactly the same. this is why shopping centres are the best, lots of different shops and amenities filled with hundreds of people all with different faces and stories to tell - paradise on earth. i hear of tourists embarking on the two-week round trip on the coastal steamer from bergen right up to the russian border and back again, and i think to myself "you poor sods, passively getting pleasure from something so dull!" they probably enjoy it, simple people are easily pleased, like infants, a limited perception of quality.
>PS. Liked your "Whither thou goest" drawing, best cat-made-of-triangles that I've ever come across.
thank you! people constantly write asking the price of a picture they like. i don't relish the packing and posting part, takes time and energy. a usual response to them is "how much do you think it's worth?" - and i give them one shot at it. three were sold recently, last one (A3 size) for $1000 + $100 postage & packing. i believe most people just want to own an original because they like what they've seen, but i suspect there are one or two looking for an investment. the 'cohen with cat' picture is more like a doodle, not a lot of thought or care put into it, the perfect modus operandi in obtaining a decent result - never be serious and try too hard. almost without exception loud reggae music is played while drawing, as this helps prohibit the mind from focusing on what is being done. try it, it works. all i do is make meals, draw, socialise and watch movies. short bursts of sleep are unavoidable, but after an hour or two consciousness returns and fresh vigour is available.
here's a couple of pieces of music that are good - high volume. i can't remember if you are a lady or a man, but from your writing i would guess male. happy weekend!
https://youtu.be/HV46OGU7ksE?si=TqcBJcsH1nOcqVfg
https://youtu.be/VWxwbXLCPnc?si=ZrqAKGTVafoIZC1k
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its4inthemorning
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Re: never-ending gallery
G, As always, it is interesting to get your take on things. People are so different. I almost said "it is amazing how different people are," but it isn't really. Given the magnitude of genetic material that is crammed into our DNA, how would a person not be different from any other human in a myriad of ways? Anyhow, I think you may have unfairly given a bad rap to those who can find beauty, peace, and wonder by merely taking in what is around them and immersing themselves in their own thoughts (the "poor sods, passively getting pleasure from something so dull.") Of course you are correct in that some of those folks may be mostly dozing off rather than contemplating!
My last post was after catching up on the forum after a hiatus. I had also wanted to say this: until reading your comment, I had always supposed that I was the only one who has never seen a Star Wars movie.
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My last post was after catching up on the forum after a hiatus. I had also wanted to say this: until reading your comment, I had always supposed that I was the only one who has never seen a Star Wars movie.
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2010 DECEMBER 10 - CAESARS COLOSSEUM, LAS VEGAS / 2012 SEPTEMBER 28 - L'OLYMPIA, PARIS
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
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Hmmm. Many of the world's greatest geniuses (artists, scientists, philosophers...) have had a preference for quiet spaces, for nature, and even for solitude (as well as an inclination to do things that take a long time!), which enabled them to explore their own inner worlds -- their vast and full and extremely active minds -- without the distraction and noise of other people. Peacefulness and quiet contemplation are paradise for some! Just becasue some people are different from you, and enjoy different things, does not mean that they are dull and simple-minded infants -- quite the contrary!Geoffrey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:53 am ...i can't stand being bored, doing things that take a long time is torture for an active mind. even in summer, the ship constantly goes past all those islands, and when you've seen one you've seen them all. at night one can stand on the deck and look up at the stars, but they too all look exactly the same. this is why shopping centres are the best, lots of different shops and amenities filled with hundreds of people all with different faces and stories to tell - paradise on earth. i hear of tourists embarking on the two-week round trip on the coastal steamer from bergen right up to the russian border and back again, and i think to myself "you poor sods, passively getting pleasure from something so dull!" they probably enjoy it, simple people are easily pleased, like infants, a limited perception of quality....
...all i do is make meals, draw, socialise and watch movies...
Of course, a lot of people (maybe most of them) are incredibly dull and simple minded, I'll give you that, but not necessarily because of the reasons you suggest. To each their own, my dear Geoffrey!
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its4inthemorning wrote:
>People are so different. I almost said "it is amazing how different people are," but it isn't really. Given the magnitude of genetic material that is crammed into our DNA, how would a person not be different from any other human in a myriad of ways?
after learning about the various categories and sub-categories comprising psychological profiles it becomes apparent that a person's personality is built mostly upon both their inherited DNA plus experiences in childhood. yes, we are so different, but nevertheless can be grouped beneath an 'umbrella' category. as lisa writes above, a lot of people are incredibly dull and simple minded. it's not totally their fault, a rat cannot be blamed for being born a rat, and without simpletons the brighter people amongst us would feel less superior.
>My last post was after catching up on the forum after a hiatus.
why did you take a hiatus, if i may be so bold?
>until reading your comment, I had always supposed that I was the only one who has never seen a Star Wars movie.
intriguing statement. what caused you to neglect ever seeing a star wars movie?
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lisa wrote:
>Many of the world's greatest geniuses (artists, scientists, philosophers...) have had a preference for quiet spaces, for nature . . .
perhaps, but as you say, 'many' - not all. bob dylan wrote songs at parties, in taxis, and while studio technicians buzzed around him, and he is just one.
my previous message was clumsily written, and you may have misunderstood me. leonard cohen said in an interview that if he knew where inspiration came from he would go there more often. that makes sense, although one can encourage the arrival of inspiration, as he was surely aware.
i have learned, for example, that socialising works for me. if i don't go out and meet people, the day is wasted, nothing gets done, can almost not brush my teeth. yet the moment i come home after socialising, enthusiasm and eagerness to do things fills my being. i make nice meals, draw pictures, answer messages - and so forth. going for walks in the countryside does not have near the same effect.
>To each their own, my dear Geoffrey!
agreed. we need to know our limits and potential. it is a learning process based upon one's IQ and personal history. another important component is the source of one's disposition; has one had a sheltered upbringing or has one suffered? there is much to be said for ursula k le guin's claim 'the creative adult is the child who survived'.
it's soon 11am on a sunny sunday morning, and i am expecting a message to meet people at the dråpe cafe when it opens in an hour. am so looking forward to it.
all the best
>People are so different. I almost said "it is amazing how different people are," but it isn't really. Given the magnitude of genetic material that is crammed into our DNA, how would a person not be different from any other human in a myriad of ways?
after learning about the various categories and sub-categories comprising psychological profiles it becomes apparent that a person's personality is built mostly upon both their inherited DNA plus experiences in childhood. yes, we are so different, but nevertheless can be grouped beneath an 'umbrella' category. as lisa writes above, a lot of people are incredibly dull and simple minded. it's not totally their fault, a rat cannot be blamed for being born a rat, and without simpletons the brighter people amongst us would feel less superior.
>My last post was after catching up on the forum after a hiatus.
why did you take a hiatus, if i may be so bold?
>until reading your comment, I had always supposed that I was the only one who has never seen a Star Wars movie.
intriguing statement. what caused you to neglect ever seeing a star wars movie?
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lisa wrote:
>Many of the world's greatest geniuses (artists, scientists, philosophers...) have had a preference for quiet spaces, for nature . . .
perhaps, but as you say, 'many' - not all. bob dylan wrote songs at parties, in taxis, and while studio technicians buzzed around him, and he is just one.
my previous message was clumsily written, and you may have misunderstood me. leonard cohen said in an interview that if he knew where inspiration came from he would go there more often. that makes sense, although one can encourage the arrival of inspiration, as he was surely aware.
i have learned, for example, that socialising works for me. if i don't go out and meet people, the day is wasted, nothing gets done, can almost not brush my teeth. yet the moment i come home after socialising, enthusiasm and eagerness to do things fills my being. i make nice meals, draw pictures, answer messages - and so forth. going for walks in the countryside does not have near the same effect.
>To each their own, my dear Geoffrey!
agreed. we need to know our limits and potential. it is a learning process based upon one's IQ and personal history. another important component is the source of one's disposition; has one had a sheltered upbringing or has one suffered? there is much to be said for ursula k le guin's claim 'the creative adult is the child who survived'.
it's soon 11am on a sunny sunday morning, and i am expecting a message to meet people at the dråpe cafe when it opens in an hour. am so looking forward to it.
all the best
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last year's man
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cohen enjoyed creating computer art, and i do too
it's doubtful that freud said this, but why let the truth get in the way of a good quote 
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Oooh, colour! I like colour!
I am not a fan of Freud -- he was a fraud and a charlatan, and most of his ludicrous theories (many of which he based on his own personal hangups, and then wrongly assumed that everyone else was as f**ked up as him) have been debunked. However, apparently, he was rather fond of dogs.
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LisaLCFan wrote:
>I am not a fan of Freud -- he was a fraud and a charlatan . . .
well, you could be right. people have divided opinions, and that is what makes life interesting
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you like colour? here is another, done in the same style.
>I am not a fan of Freud -- he was a fraud and a charlatan . . .
well, you could be right. people have divided opinions, and that is what makes life interesting
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you like colour? here is another, done in the same style.
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its4inthemorning
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Re: never-ending gallery
Hi G,
A few years ago I would have refrained from personal chit-chat on the forum, but as you've bemoaned many times, there is no longer much activity here. Cohen left a legacy and will always have followers and be studied, but I fear that the endless thought and effort that went into all that he created is almost alien to many younger people today given the music that they follow and seem to enjoy. In short, Cohen fans are a dying breed, and new forum posters grow rarer and rarer.
Anyhow, you asked why I had not been viewing the forum of late; the answer is no more complicated than I have just been busy with other things I enjoy doing. You also asked why I never watched any of the Star Wars movies (I might ask you the same question). It is hard to put my finger on a specific reason, but I believe that I felt that those films (from what I knew from reading about them and seeing excerpts) would not match the novel and well-produced Star Trek television series that was the basis of the Star Wars movies. That series had excellent writers and most episodes--like Cohen's works--presented ideas and concepts that gave the viewer a lot to think about, while the movies seemed to rely more on technology and special effects. (I understand that many would entirely disagree with this assessment.) Realize that I am not totally opposed to technology and special effects in cinema, one of my all-time favorite films is "2001."
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PS, I had no idea that Freud had views on or ever even spoke about napkins and recycled fibre.
A few years ago I would have refrained from personal chit-chat on the forum, but as you've bemoaned many times, there is no longer much activity here. Cohen left a legacy and will always have followers and be studied, but I fear that the endless thought and effort that went into all that he created is almost alien to many younger people today given the music that they follow and seem to enjoy. In short, Cohen fans are a dying breed, and new forum posters grow rarer and rarer.
Anyhow, you asked why I had not been viewing the forum of late; the answer is no more complicated than I have just been busy with other things I enjoy doing. You also asked why I never watched any of the Star Wars movies (I might ask you the same question). It is hard to put my finger on a specific reason, but I believe that I felt that those films (from what I knew from reading about them and seeing excerpts) would not match the novel and well-produced Star Trek television series that was the basis of the Star Wars movies. That series had excellent writers and most episodes--like Cohen's works--presented ideas and concepts that gave the viewer a lot to think about, while the movies seemed to rely more on technology and special effects. (I understand that many would entirely disagree with this assessment.) Realize that I am not totally opposed to technology and special effects in cinema, one of my all-time favorite films is "2001."
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PS, I had no idea that Freud had views on or ever even spoke about napkins and recycled fibre.
2010 DECEMBER 10 - CAESARS COLOSSEUM, LAS VEGAS / 2012 SEPTEMBER 28 - L'OLYMPIA, PARIS
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
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That's usually your way of saying that you disagree with me and think that I'm wrong.
However, I wasn't spouting an "opinion" (which is an unjustified, unsupported belief), rather, I made a statement that is based on considerable and irrefutable evidence, which some might call a "fact". If you are so inclined, you can read the articles below, which provide some of that evidence. Enjoy!
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/freud- ... doscience/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/ ... atan-liar/
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its4inthemorning wrote:
>Hi G,
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>A few years ago I would have refrained from personal chit-chat on the forum . . .
personal chit-chat can often be more fascinating than a deep discussion on some intellectual subject, at least if one is more interested in the person than the discussion subject.
>I fear that the endless thought and effort that went into all that [leonard] created is almost alien to many younger people today given the music that they follow and seem to enjoy.
well, life evolves - as it should do. younger people create their own identity, as will subsequent generations after them. it is easy to believe that what one appreciated in one's formative years is superior than what is available today, and that is such a pity. an apt quote from leonard himself would be "there's good wine in every generation."
>Cohen fans are a dying breed, and new forum posters grow rarer and rarer.
yes, that is how it works, it seems. nothing is permanent.
>you asked why I had not been viewing the forum of late; the answer is no more complicated than I have just been busy with other things I enjoy doing.
reading between the lines here one can sense an air of mystery, but i will not pry into what these important other things that you prioritise might be - unless of course you wish to be open about it.
>You also asked why I never watched any of the Star Wars movies (I might ask you the same question).
well, concerning the first movie, the title itself, plus the advertisements, told me what to expect - and it didn't appeal.
>I am not totally opposed to technology and special effects in cinema, one of my all-time favorite films is "2001."
one of my all-time favourites as well, but then again i have so many
>I had no idea that Freud had views on or ever even spoke about napkins and recycled fibre.
not everyone reads the small print on a serviette, so well done for that! as for 'freud the fraud' (as others might say) he would no doubt interpret the current recycling hysteria as being connected to some mass sexual dysfunction.
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I wrote:
>>well, you could be right. people have divided opinions, and that is what makes life interesting
LisaLCFan replied:
>That's usually your way of saying that you disagree with me and think that I'm wrong.
no, i have not judged the validity of freud's work. as he was the founder of psychoanalysis i naturally find it interesting, but do not feel qualified to reach a sound conclusion. it is true i tend to avoid confrontation, but if passionately disagree about something will let it be known.
>If you are so inclined, you can read the articles below, which provide some of that evidence. Enjoy!
thank you! i was already aware of the controversy surrounding freud, but will enjoy going to these links and discover what is being written about this 'con man'.
thanks to you both for your participation!
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>Hi G,
>
>A few years ago I would have refrained from personal chit-chat on the forum . . .
personal chit-chat can often be more fascinating than a deep discussion on some intellectual subject, at least if one is more interested in the person than the discussion subject.
>I fear that the endless thought and effort that went into all that [leonard] created is almost alien to many younger people today given the music that they follow and seem to enjoy.
well, life evolves - as it should do. younger people create their own identity, as will subsequent generations after them. it is easy to believe that what one appreciated in one's formative years is superior than what is available today, and that is such a pity. an apt quote from leonard himself would be "there's good wine in every generation."
>Cohen fans are a dying breed, and new forum posters grow rarer and rarer.
yes, that is how it works, it seems. nothing is permanent.
>you asked why I had not been viewing the forum of late; the answer is no more complicated than I have just been busy with other things I enjoy doing.
reading between the lines here one can sense an air of mystery, but i will not pry into what these important other things that you prioritise might be - unless of course you wish to be open about it.
>You also asked why I never watched any of the Star Wars movies (I might ask you the same question).
well, concerning the first movie, the title itself, plus the advertisements, told me what to expect - and it didn't appeal.
>I am not totally opposed to technology and special effects in cinema, one of my all-time favorite films is "2001."
one of my all-time favourites as well, but then again i have so many
>I had no idea that Freud had views on or ever even spoke about napkins and recycled fibre.
not everyone reads the small print on a serviette, so well done for that! as for 'freud the fraud' (as others might say) he would no doubt interpret the current recycling hysteria as being connected to some mass sexual dysfunction.
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I wrote:
>>well, you could be right. people have divided opinions, and that is what makes life interesting
LisaLCFan replied:
>That's usually your way of saying that you disagree with me and think that I'm wrong.
no, i have not judged the validity of freud's work. as he was the founder of psychoanalysis i naturally find it interesting, but do not feel qualified to reach a sound conclusion. it is true i tend to avoid confrontation, but if passionately disagree about something will let it be known.
>If you are so inclined, you can read the articles below, which provide some of that evidence. Enjoy!
thank you! i was already aware of the controversy surrounding freud, but will enjoy going to these links and discover what is being written about this 'con man'.
thanks to you both for your participation!
-g