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Re: Nick Cave's wife

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her fashion label seems to be loved by a princess and other stylish folk :

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie ... ite-brand/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/princes ... 00415.html
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angelheaded hipster

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first documentary to explore the complex and revolutionary music and lyrics of Marc Bolan and T. Rex.

includes cosmic dancer - nick cave.

https://releasing.dogwoof.com/angelheaded-hipster

https://www.sky.com/watch/title/program ... 1d2cc85090

https://www.skystore.com/product/angel- ... 7917693ae0
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nick cave at shane mcgowan's funeral

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a rainy night in soho - nick's tribute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsMLJ0lFN8

alternate video with other comments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj704YTqoZw

full funeral coverage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYX_AgIFAFo
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Re: Nick Cave

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Hello Sebmelmoth2003,

Thank you for the ink of Nick's tribute at Shane McGowan's funeral and for all the info you and others have posted here about Nick Cave.

Being curious about him, I have been enjoying his "Red Hand Files" emails for several months now. His answers to the random questions and comments posed by those who write to him never cease to amaze me. No matter how caustic, adoring, heartbreaking, or hopeful the pleas for a response from him are, his answers come across as thoughtful and straight from the heart every time. He is a very interesting guy and very eloquent. His take on things is always worth reading. I confess I haven't listened to all of his music, although I have enjoyed several recordings, "The Weeping Song" and "Into my arms" to name only two, but I can see why he has "garnered a reputation for being exceptionally cool" as Christopher Jo has put it here.

Nick Cave is definitely exceptionally cool. I can see why he was attracted to Leonard.

Vickie
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Re: Nick Cave

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vlcoats wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 5:07 pm Hi B4!! This is what Nick had to say about it in his Red Hand Files...

The Red Hand Files
ISSUE #235 / MAY 2023

QUEEN ELIZABETH I GOING IN PROCESSION TO BLACKFRIARS IN 1600
(AFTER ROBERT PEAKE THE ELDER)
Why the fuck are you going to the King's coronation?
JON, BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA

I see that you will be attending the coronation as part of the Australian delegation. Are you a Monarchist? Why go?
ADRIAN, CAMPERDOWN, AUSTRALIA

The coronation. Seriously????
ROGER, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA

Nick Cave going to the coronation??! What would the young Nick Cave have thought of that?!
MATT, LEEDS, UK

Dear Jon, Adrian, Roger and Matt,

I’ll make this a quick one because I’ve got to work out what I am going to wear to the Coronation.

I am not a monarchist, nor am I a royalist, nor am I an ardent republican for that matter; what I am also not is so spectacularly incurious about the world and the way it works, so ideologically captured, so damn grouchy, as to refuse an invitation to what will more than likely be the most important historical event in the UK of our age. Not just the most important, but the strangest, the weirdest.

I once met the late Queen at an event at Buckingham Palace for ‘Aspirational Australians living in the UK’ (or something like that). It was a mostly awkward affair, but the Queen herself, dressed in a salmon coloured twin-set, seemed almost extraterrestrial and was the most charismatic woman I have ever met. Maybe it was the lighting, but she actually glowed. As I told my mother – who was the same age as the Queen and, like the Queen, died in her nineties – about that day, her old eyes filled with tears. When I watched the Queen’s funeral on the television last year I found, to my bafflement, that I was weeping myself as the coffin was stripped of the crown, orb and sceptre and lowered through the floor of St. George’s Chapel. I guess what I am trying to say is that, beyond the interminable but necessary debates about the abolition of the monarchy, I hold an inexplicable emotional attachment to the Royals – the strangeness of them, the deeply eccentric nature of the whole affair that so perfectly reflects the unique weirdness of Britain itself. I’m just drawn to that kind of thing – the bizarre, the uncanny, the stupefyingly spectacular, the awe-inspiring.

And as for what the young Nick Cave would have thought – well, the young Nick Cave was, in all due respect to the young Nick Cave, young, and like many young people, mostly demented, so I’m a little cautious around using him as a benchmark for what I should or should not do. He was cute though, I’ll give him that. Deranged, but cute.

So, with all that in mind, I am looking forward to going the Coronation. I think I’ll wear a suit.
I do wish I was half as eloquent as that. Breathtaking. Thank you.
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Re: Nick Cave

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This morning's letter from The Red Hand Files is too beautiful not to share. Nick Cave has lost two of his three sons, & now he's become a grandpa.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/my-wife ... expecting/

Here is the letter:

My wife and I are expecting a baby boy next week. All the tests are normal but I seem to swing from terror to euphoria and back again by the minute. Mostly terror! [ ] No real question, I just wanted to let you know.
MARIUS, LOCKPORT, NY, USA

& the response from gramps:

Dear Marius,

Last Saturday morning, I walked out of the Park Hyatt in Melbourne into a dazzling sun-filled day, having been awake all night anxiously waiting by my telephone. I headed into town and bought a coffee and a sandwich from Pellegrino’s, then walked past Parliament House and up by St Patrick’s Cathedral to Fitzroy Gardens, where I sat on a bench and considered your question.

Of course you are oscillating between terror and euphoria, I thought, because what you and your wife are about to embark on is perhaps the most substantive course of action two people can take – to bring a baby, that fragile interwork of spirit and atoms, that squalling metaphor of conjugal love, that emissary of hope and potential, that boy of joy, into what is, by any measure, a deeply troubled world. I thought about what a defiant and outrageous act of positive intentionality it was, of courage and faith in the human adventure itself, of resistance against cynicism, of pure, undiluted trust in things, and I felt a very real affection for you both.

As I drank my coffee and ate my sandwich, I thought of my son, Luke, and his wife, Sasha, who had welcomed their own baby boy into the world last night, and I experienced a wave of great elation. A breeze rippled across the lawn, the birds cawed, the sun shone high in the sky, and the great gum trees seemed to burst from the ground – all for my own momentary enjoyment, for a new grandfather, sitting on a park bench, on this most happy day. A child is born and the world continues wildly upon its way.

I send you and your wife all my love and admiration, Marius.

Love, Nick

take care of yourselves, cohenites 🖤
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Re: Nick Cave

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abby wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 5:51 pm This morning's letter from The Red Hand Files is too beautiful not to share. Nick Cave has lost two of his three sons, & now he's become a grandpa.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/my-wife ... expecting/

Here is the letter:

My wife and I are expecting a baby boy next week. All the tests are normal but I seem to swing from terror to euphoria and back again by the minute. Mostly terror! [ ] No real question, I just wanted to let you know.
MARIUS, LOCKPORT, NY, USA

& the response from gramps:

Dear Marius,

Last Saturday morning, I walked out of the Park Hyatt in Melbourne into a dazzling sun-filled day, having been awake all night anxiously waiting by my telephone. I headed into town and bought a coffee and a sandwich from Pellegrino’s, then walked past Parliament House and up by St Patrick’s Cathedral to Fitzroy Gardens, where I sat on a bench and considered your question.

Of course you are oscillating between terror and euphoria, I thought, because what you and your wife are about to embark on is perhaps the most substantive course of action two people can take – to bring a baby, that fragile interwork of spirit and atoms, that squalling metaphor of conjugal love, that emissary of hope and potential, that boy of joy, into what is, by any measure, a deeply troubled world. I thought about what a defiant and outrageous act of positive intentionality it was, of courage and faith in the human adventure itself, of resistance against cynicism, of pure, undiluted trust in things, and I felt a very real affection for you both.

As I drank my coffee and ate my sandwich, I thought of my son, Luke, and his wife, Sasha, who had welcomed their own baby boy into the world last night, and I experienced a wave of great elation. A breeze rippled across the lawn, the birds cawed, the sun shone high in the sky, and the great gum trees seemed to burst from the ground – all for my own momentary enjoyment, for a new grandfather, sitting on a park bench, on this most happy day. A child is born and the world continues wildly upon its way.

I send you and your wife all my love and admiration, Marius.

Love, Nick

take care of yourselves, cohenites 🖤
I've always been amazed at how morally strong he is. I wish everyone had that kind of stamina!
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Re: Nick Cave

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Maybe for the rest of my life I'll just post things Nick Cave writes. This is the most recent exchange, using Anthem:

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/god-and ... ery-tight/

Dear LFMOFG,

A well-known couplet from Leonard Cohen’s song, Anthem, goes, ‘There is a crack, a crack in everything/ That’s how the light gets in.’ These words had always sounded like a platitude and a little corny to me, but a long, dark journey made me better understand their radical and unsettling nature – that God is often most acutely found in His absence.

This realisation shook me to the core, that the meaning of life – its joy, boundless beauty and love – emerges out of our most devastating losses. I learned that without the savagery of life, love has no true domain, and the relational quality of joy and beauty has no natural way to express itself. I came to understand that although the world’s energising principle is love, joy ultimately declares itself most intensely through our heartbreaks.

As I said, it took a prolonged and painful journey to arrive at this insight, and perhaps that is the road you are on now. The idea that ‘God is love’ is a hard-earned truth, and it can be discomforting to think that His presence is at its most resonant in life’s darkest and cruellest moments.

Understandably, you feel heartbroken about the world – it can feel like a ruthless place, vindictive, and sometimes it seems personal. But I have realised that it is a moral error to compulsively fixate on the world’s troubles, to elevate ‘the crack in everything’ and not acknowledge ‘the light getting in.’ Our pleasures and joys are not a negation of humanity’s suffering, a betrayal of those we have lost, or the denial of our various griefs. They are the bright, necessary, God-filled articulations of our humanness. We humans are our own howling voids – cracked and beautiful things pierced by light. Faith is not something we find, it is bestowed upon us as a consolatory gift. LFMOFG, there is no need to find your way back. You are already there.

Love, Nick





love, Abby
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Re: Nick Cave

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tim booth lead singer of james picks nick cave track.

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

Into My Arms

THE BEST OF NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS. MUTE RECORDS. 7.

2 hours and 7 minutes approx into gary davies programme on bbc radio 2

after the tracks of my years segment ends a caller phoned in to mention that she'd selected into my arms as the music track to accompany her walk down the aisle at her wedding

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001znxv

full list of tim's choices - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001zntl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Booth ... 20Booth%20(born%204%20February,%22%2C%20and%20%22Laid%22.
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nick cave - tribute to amy winehouse

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Nick Cave and Warren Ellis Pay Solemn Tribute to Amy Winehouse on Moving Biopic Ballad ‘Song For Amy’

The track appears on the score album for the upcoming "Back to Black" movie about the late "Rehab" singer...

https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-fi ... 235655001/

song for amy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Trl2vdp0RE
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Nick Cave - MOJO magazine

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Nick Cave: “Human beings remain systemically beautiful.”

Nick Cave speaks exclusively to MOJO about “joyful” new album, Wild God, his journey through mourning, and attending King Charles’ coronation.

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By MOJO | Updated On16 07 2024

Speaking exclusively in the new issue of MOJO, Nick Cave has spoken in depth about his new album, Wild God. In stark contrast with recent Bad Seeds records – steeped in the grief that followed the death of his son Arthur in 2015 – the album reflects a more positive mindset and contains more telling contributions from his Bad Seeds bandmates.

“There’s a deep anxiety that runs through it, like all my records,” he tells Dorian Lynskey, “but in spite of that it keeps leaping out into these very joyful moments. Regardless of our essential brokenness we – as human beings and the world – remain systemically beautiful. Regardless of how bad it seems, we just keep doing beautiful things. And that’s what the record feels like to me.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Cave discusses his grief following the death of his son Arthur in 2015, having previously described it as “a shattering, or a series of shatterings” that altered his personality: “You become a different person.”

Cave’s Bad Seed bandmate Warren Ellis, however, tells MOJO that the loss served to foreground a more caring, empathetic side to the singer which was always present.

“The seeds were there – they’ve just kind of grown,” says Ellis. “He was really caring and considerate. For me there was always Nick and then there was Nick Cave and it’s like Nick took over. The guy I’d have dinner with suddenly became the main feature.”

Cave and Ellis discuss the making of 2019's Ghosteen, written and recorded in the wake of Arthur's loss, a record Ellis thought might have marked the end of the pair's three decade long collaboration.

“I’m happy that it exists but it was a painful thing to make, says Cave. “I fucking hate hearing bands talk about the pain of making a record, because I don’t believe them. But Ghosteen had its attendant agonies for sure, and not something I’d want to repeat.”

“There was a feeling that I’d never felt before – of stepping into a kind of outpouring of love...” MOJO’s exclusive cover interview with Nick Cave is available in UK shops from Tuesday, July 16, and available to order for delivery now. More info and to order a copy, go HERE!

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Re: Nick Cave

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The Leonard Cohen song that changed Nick Cave’s life forever: “I saw how powerful that could be”

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/nick-cave- ... nged-life/

Jack Whatley@JackWhatley89
Fri 16 August 2024 18:16, UK
If you’re captivated by Nick Cave, the enigmatic singer-songwriter of The Bad Seeds and the spookiest man in rock, it might be difficult to picture him as a doe-eyed 11-year-old boy. Yet, as surprising as it may seem, he was indeed once that young and innocent. Even at that age, though, it’s clear that the literary mind that would later shape his legacy was already beginning to take form.
It was at this age that Cave first heard the song that would change his life and set him on course to become the loving stepfather of rock and roll he is today. The artist behind such a victory for music and inspiration to Cave’s outlook? The esteemed poet, writer and songwriter Leonard Cohen.
Cave’s admiration for Cohen has never been understated, and he has, on many and any occasion spoken of his appreciation for him. When Cohen passed away in 2016, Cave led the tributes by suggesting that Cohen was truly one of a kind. “For many of us, Leonard Cohen was the greatest songwriter of them all,” he said, before adding that Cohen was “utterly unique and impossible to imitate no matter how hard we tried. He will be deeply missed by so many.” It’s a challenging proposition to argue against and one that very few would take on in the company of Cave.
One of the many people deeply upset by Cohen’s passing in 2016 would be Cave himself, who not only held Cohen up as the idol of the ultimate songwriting legend but also a teacher of sorts. The Aussie rocker also did his best in covering some of his most iconic songs, delivering them with a baritone verve that may have pleased Cohen, despite him once proclaiming Cave “butchered” a classic track of his all the while placing his tongue firmly inside his cheek. Taking on 1967’s anthem ‘Suzanne’, as well as ‘Avalanche’ and ‘I’m Your Man’, Cave has always done his best to pay homage to the Canadian poet.
However, one song in particular would change Cave’s life. Seeing him evolve from a young boy in Wangaratta into the current daddy of rock and roll would likely never have happened if it wasn’t for one song. Speaking with ABC‘s Richard Kingsmill in 1994, the singer revealed the impact Leonard Cohen’s 1971 album track ‘Famous Blue Raincoat’ had on him as a kid and how it showed him the way to the purest form of songwriting.
“I remember listening to this song when I must have been 11 or 12,” he said. “I lived in Wangaratta and I had a friend called Anne Baumgarten, she was quite a morbid kind of creature,” explains the equally morbid creature, Cave, who has never been afraid to show his darker side. “She used to play Leonard Cohen in her room with burning candles and all that sort of stuff. She’d listen to Songs of Love and Hate over and over again. I started to that myself and became kind of infatuated with the lyric at that point. I saw how powerful that could be.”
Lyrics would become and have since been critical to any Cave composition. Whether they are telling an old yarn spun in a new direction or reflecting on some of the most troubling times of his life, Cave has used his tracks as a journal of his life. But it was the brutal honesty with which it appeared Cohen sang his track that really captured Cave’s attention at a young age. He added: “This song [‘Famous Blue Raincoat’] to me just seemed like a true kind of confessional song. It just seemed to be so open and kind of honest in some way. Whether it is or not, I don’t really know”.
“It just had that effect on me and it really kinda changed the way I looked at things. He had a tendency to air his linen in public in a way,” admired Cave. “I thought that was all very impressive at the time. I still do, of course.” Cave has never shied away from a ‘warts and all’ approach to his art, and it’s clearly influenced by Cohen.
In the liner notes of the 1975 The Best of Leonard Cohen record, the poet puts the record straight on whose coat it actually was: “I had a good raincoat then, a Burberry I got in London in 1959. Elizabeth thought I looked like a spider in it. That was probably why she wouldn’t go to Greece with me. It hung more heroically when I took out the lining, and achieved glory when the frayed sleeves were repaired with a little leather. Things were clear. I knew how to dress in those days. It was stolen from Marianne’s loft in New York City sometime during the early ‘70s. I wasn’t wearing it very much toward the end.”
It’s a point that Cave has taken into all his work. Without a doubt, Cave has always put his heart on the paper when it comes to songwriting. No more so can this be seen than in his heartbreaking record Ghosteen in which Cave addresses the loss of his son Arthur and the exploration of grief that comes with it. It is a piece so delicately positioned within the heart of the writer and the minds of his audience that it is likely to change the lives of future songwriters for generations to come.

What is it about Famous Blue Raincoat and how it relates so favourable with men?

I know I’ve said this before, of the males I know this is very much so. In fact, I’ll bet if you asked male forum members or any male into LC’s music the odds would be that Famous Blue Raincoat is their favourite song ;-)
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Re: Nick Cave

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When I listened to men harder than I listened to women Famous Blue Raincoat was my favorite song of his too.
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Nick Cave - bbc radio 6 music - repeat programmes

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tuesday 27th august, 2024.

midnight until 05.00am.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl65/2024/08/27

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also repeat of this cultural life - 19.15 hours uk time - monday 26th august.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001m4dh
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australian story - nick cave interview on ABC tv.

Rock legend Nick Cave sits down with Leigh Sales for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation.

He looks back over more than four decades as a performer and songwriter and explains how the death of his son in an accidental fall nine years ago changed the course of his life, bringing him closer to his fans and deepening a life-long interest in religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXPIBFfA2Ho
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Nick Cave - bbc radio 2 -- jo whiley

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nick co-hosts with jo whiley on her programme - - monday 2nd september, 2024.

40 minutes approx into the programme - extended interview.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00228kq
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