L.C. Song Hunt

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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Sun May 31, 2015 8:47 pm

B4real wrote: Give me the name of a sanguine song and two separate lines about reflection ;-) within that song.
Tonight Will Be Fine

"Sometimes I find I get to thinking of the past"

"Oh sometimes I see her undressing for me"
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby B4real » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:39 am

Well done Rachel, that’s the song!

The first line of the first verse “Sometimes I get to thinking of the past” is correct but for the other one I was thinking of the last line of the last verse “If I've got to remember that's a fine memory”.

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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:26 pm

Hi Bev,
B4real wrote:
but for the other one I was thinking of the last line of the last verse “If I've got to remember that's a fine memory”.

Your turn now!
That line occurred to me as a possibility, also, but for some reason I opted for the other one. . .

Here's my next one: There are 2 songs which contains lyrics that allude to a rift, or disharmony, between generations.
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Hartmut » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:42 pm

Is one of the songs "Closing Time"?

(and I lift my glass to the awful truth
which you can't reveal to the ears of youth)
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Steven » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:08 am

Hi,

And, to add to Hartmut's answer, is the other song "Night Comes On" with these lines?:

I'd like to pretend that my father was wrong
But you don't want to lie, not to the young
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:34 am

Hi Steven & Hartmut,

Those are really good guesses - thank you, but sorry, they are not the songs I have in mind. The conflict, IMHO, is more overt in the lyrics I'm thinking of. I think I'll hold off on any more clues at this point, but please keep trying. . .
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Steven » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:53 am

Hi holydove,

Alright, these two songs might fit the bill: "Story of Isaac" and "Lover Lover Lover."

"Story of Isaac" includes:
You who build these altars now
to sacrifice these children,
you must not do it anymore.

"Lover Lover Lover" includes:
I asked my father,
I said, "Father, change my name."
The one I'm using now, it's covered up
with fear and filth and cowardice and shame.
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:35 am

Steven wrote:Hi holydove,

Alright, these two songs might fit the bill: "Story of Isaac" and "Lover Lover Lover."

"Story of Isaac" includes:
You who build these altars now
to sacrifice these children,
you must not do it anymore.
Steven, you got it right with that verse from Story of Isaac - bravo!

The other song I'm thinking of contains 2 lines that indicate a conflict, between 2 generations of a family, & the conflict revolves around a musical issue.
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:15 pm

I guess it's time for another clue. This other song has, itself, generated conflicting (i.e. love/hate) feelings in Cohen-land. The 2 members of the family to which the lyrics allude, have the same last name, & that name is actually stated in these 2 lines of lyrics. The last word of the second line can be mistaken for a different word, & one might have to see the lyrics in print in order to understand the generational conflict to which the lyrics refer.

Editing: Actually, the 2 members of the family have the same first, middle & last name. It's only that last word of the second line which lets one know that the lyrics are referring to 2 different people.
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Goldin » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:41 am

Okay, it was rather obvious that's Jazz Police, so - as noone wants to answer for some reason - I will.

I can never understand this conflict around/about the song, I like it very much. Especially, live 1988 renditions, e.g. in Austin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaMYMWg6rE

LOL, comments to this video: "Every time I listen to this song, it gets worse" & "This is so bad it's funny!"
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby holydove » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:56 am

Thank you, Roman - very kind of you!! Jazz Police it is. I guess it is now also obvious which 2 lines I was referring to, but for the record, I'll state them here anyway:

"Jazz police are paid by J. Paul Getty
Jazzers paid by J. Paul Getty II"

And I agree about the Austin rendition - I think it's hilarious! I must admit, though, it's the only LC studio recording that I never really loved, in terms of the musical style, but when I saw the Austin rendition, that shed a whole new light on the song, as well as its musical arrangement, & it changed my feeling about it. And I think the lyrics are pretty amazing.
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Steven » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:07 am

Hi,

Positive change in a person can be unwelcome. An L.C. song exemplifies this by including a negative
reaction to someone having the possibility of positive change. Can you name the song and identify the
lyric line?
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby mnkyface » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:38 am

You want to change the way I make love
I want to leave it alone
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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Maj » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:59 am

Ah you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win.

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Re: L.C. Song Hunt

Postby Steven » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:55 pm

Hi,

Thank you mnkyface and Maj. The answer provided by Maj is the one I had in mind.

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