Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

General discussion about Leonard Cohen's songs and albums
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby Jean Fournell » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:42 pm

B4real wrote: I didn’t know I had such influence, ha!
Ha, Bev, the power, or is it: "the beauty of the word"…

Sometimes words can modify the material world. That's the basic assumption of the Sufi dhikr ("mention" of the name of Allah). There was an interesting discussion here, too:
https://leonardcohenforum.com/viewtopic ... 82&t=35402
But such words don't work all by themselves. If "they're dust to you", then they are just words:
I haven't said a word since you been gone
That any liar couldn't say as well


Or, as Edith Piaf has it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qHmTY7Q7YQ):
Je dis des mots
Parce que des mots,
Il y en a tant
Qu'il y en a trop...

(I'm saying words
because of words
there's such a lot
that it's too much…)

Sometimes there is a bit more to words than meets the eye, or the ear.



Many happy returns, Vickie!
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby vlcoats » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:15 pm

Bev,
I meant to reply first thing this morning, but it seems that Jean has beat me to the punch! I too was going to comment on your post regarding that you didn't realize you had such influence. I was going to say Ha! And then double Ha! Your influence is great, in these realms at least!

I am LOVING LC Under Review and would love to see the next one as well. It is interesting to hear others talk about him.... something I am sorely missing in real life. I will need to look for the CDs.

My heart goes out to you with the heat wave! That is one thing I do not miss about Idaho. I remember one summer there, the high was 116゚F. Yikes! As much as I miss the solitude and our place there, I do not miss the summer heat. I hope you don't see much more of it there in Oz!

THANK YOU everyone for the Happy Birthday wishes! I had to work, but Dave is taking me to the King Tut exhibit at the OMS in Portland tomorrow He knows me better than to suggest we go out to dinner.

Vickie
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby B4real » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:36 am

Thanks Vickie, for your most thoughtful words 8)
The fires have now burned through an area bigger than Belgium and the Netherlands!

Jean Fournell wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:42 pm
Ha, Bev, the power, or is it: "the beauty of the word"…

Sometimes words can modify the material world.

Sometimes there is a bit more to words than meets the eye, or the ear.
Jean, your words so aptly reminded me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYcXTlGLUgE
Attitude is a self-fulfilling prophecy ~ me ...... The magic of art is the truth of its lies ~ me ...... Only left-handers are in their right mind!
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby vlcoats » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:50 am

Bev
So sorry for the fires. We too have had many more than usual in the West in the past few years. The smoke and lives lost make you feel like it is armageddon.
I loved your link with the blind man and the girl. Jean is right. Words can make all the difference. I am reminded of this whenever I realize how much Leonard's words and the words of everyone here on the forum have changed my life. It is hard to believe that we could just be small pieces of dust in the scope of all time and space, when the words of one man can be so much.
Vickie
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby anny » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:07 am

Keep safe Bev !!!
...and happy birthday Vickie
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby B4real » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:32 pm

anny wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:07 am
Keep safe Bev !!!
Thank you anny! I'm OK - the fires are north, west and south of me - it's just the heat and smoke here.
As I live on the east coast I can always jump into the sea if they come my way :)
Now there's a cyclone out to sea that may hopefully not cross our coast but bring much needed rain.
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby anny » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:15 am

There is too much rain and wind here right now so I will send it to you to cool off ... enjoy it Bef !!!
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby B4real » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:07 am

Thank you anny, sounds good to me :D

EDIT: anny, you are a magician - it's raining and cooler!!
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby anny » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:51 am

I'm glad to hear that Bef !!! It's the first time that I could make someone happy by sending rain...enjoy and have a good time !!! ;-)
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Postby Jean Fournell » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:03 am

The book "Poeta en Nueva York" by Federico García Lorca has arrived, but it's in Spanish only.

Bookdepository very politely apologised for the "error in the catalogue" and issued a complete refund, telling me to "Please, keep the wrong title".

This is more than decent! A really pleasant surprise!

Now I'll have to see whether I can get along in spite of my poor Spanish, or whether I'd rather get a bilingual edition, too…
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