HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by Mabeanie1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:46 am

hydriot wrote:How long is this concert? Maximum? I notice that the Wembley show starts early, and I'd like to calculate rouhly when I will be able to get away.
The concerts so far have been up to 4 hours long. I have no idea if Wembley imposes any type of curfew - haven't been to a concert there for 20 years - but I wouldn't assume that the concerts will start earlier either. I assumed the 18.30 quoted is the "doors" time, implying that the concert will start at 8.00 pm, maybe 7.30 pm at the earliest.

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Re: Hop Farm concert moved to Wembley?

Post by cathye » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:10 am

Hi Wendy

Thanks for the reply. No email so far - so I will call Eventim tomorrow morning. My email from Ticketmaster copied below so I have held back from buying through Presales option - all feels a huge lottery as I assume the lines will be hot in the morning. So wonder should I take the plunge tonight and book my two tickets through presales and then get refund for the original? Anyone else doing this?

"We have been informed that Leonard Cohen will not be taking place at Hop Farm on 8 and 9 September 2012, and instead he will now be performing at Wembley Arena on the same nights.

Original tickets will not be valid.

If you wish to exchange your booking to the Wembley Arena events on the same dates, please call our Customer Support line on 08444 999 999 from 9:30am on 24 August 2012.

Please note that if we do not hear from you by 5pm on, 31 August 2012, we will assume you do not wish to exchange and refund your booking."
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by catswhiskers » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:26 am

This is all a total mess--unbelievable.Surely the organisers knew all about this change some time ago--but why leave it to the last minute to tell the public!
Shambles,isn´t strong enough--someone should be held responsible.What about all those fans who have forked out for hotel accomodation,fares,and even flights? Its just not on.
I am utterly disgusted----and no,I shall not be attending these concerts.As much as I adore Leonard--(and I´m certainly not blaming him)--enough is enough.If these big companies can´t get their act together,and spoil things for us "little folk",then I am just not interested.
He WILL tour again in 2013--of that I´m pretty certain--and I am hoping with lots more gigs in the UK.I shall wait until then--when things have calmed down--and someone might then be handling things using more sense,and giving us fans more consideration.
In the meantime,I hope you all have a great time--get the seats you are hoping for,and don´t land up losing too much money.Maybe the organisers haven´t yet heard of the word "recession"? Too busy taking us for every penny,I guess,
SHAME ON THEM.
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by meglos2000 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:31 am

I suspect we will probably never know the full reasons for the Hop Farm venue change.

This article from a local Kent paper has a quote from the Hop Farm people saying

A message on the Hop Farm website states: “We have received information from the organisers of the Leonard Cohen concerts on the 8-9 September that the event has moved to Wembley Arena. The Hop Farm is not privy to any more detail and all enquirers/ticket holders should contact their point of purchase (Main Ticket Agent: Eventim on 0844 249 1000)”.

http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/leonard_ ... _1_1491758

Seems like no one wants to say why!!
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by Mabeanie1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:11 am

I may be jumping to conclusions but I have been reminded very much of the Phnom Penh situation where the local promoter apparently failed to meet the tour's requirements on a timely basis. The tour pulled the plug on the show and the promoter protested his innocence. I doubt if the decision to switch venues was taken likely as it will have caused AEG & LC management a fair bit of pain as well as us. The thing is though they have much deeper pockets corporately than we do as individuals and it's their day job to sort problems out. We on the other hand had to spend a morning or whatever sorting out our tickets and arrangements on top of our normal daily lives.

This is the 5th time fans have faced this type of situation (and the associated financial costs) since early 2010 (postponement of March 2010 dates, cancellation of Phnom Penh Nov 2010, cancellation of Honolulu Dec 2010, change of date Verona Sept 2012 and now switch from Hop Farm to Wembley). At the end of the day, I guess we can only be grateful that Wembley was available so at least the tour will still be making a brief stop in the UK in 2012. It's been a long 3+ years since Leonard last played the UK, 3 years in which the only way UK fans could catch a show was to travel to mainland Europe and beyond.

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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by songwriter » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:04 am

catswhiskers wrote:This is all a total mess--unbelievable.Surely the organisers knew all about this change some time ago--but why leave it to the last minute to tell the public!
Shambles,isn´t strong enough--someone should be held responsible.What about all those fans who have forked out for hotel accomodation,fares,and even flights? Its just not on.
I am utterly disgusted----and no,I shall not be attending these concerts.As much as I adore Leonard--(and I´m certainly not blaming him)--enough is enough.If these big companies can´t get their act together,and spoil things for us "little folk",then I am just not interested.
He WILL tour again in 2013--of that I´m pretty certain--and I am hoping with lots more gigs in the UK.I shall wait until then--when things have calmed down--and someone might then be handling things using more sense,and giving us fans more consideration.
In the meantime,I hope you all have a great time--get the seats you are hoping for,and don´t land up losing too much money.Maybe the organisers haven´t yet heard of the word "recession"? Too busy taking us for every penny,I guess,
SHAME ON THEM.

You cut off your nose to spite your face.

It appears the Hop Farm organisers are facing possible financial ruin. They have families, children, lives. They have employees who will lose their jobs. Those people also have families, children, lives.

You think this situation is deliberate? You think this has been done to inconvenience us?

I think we have been blessed that matters have been resolved so smoothly. Some of us have booked hotels, trains. But life is full of unexpected obstables we must seek to overcome. These obstacles are not insurmountable.
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by Mabeanie1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:32 am

More from the Kent News http://www.kentnews.co.uk/home/is_axe_h ... _1_1492302

I think we can assume we have the reason - emphasis mine (no working capital = no money)

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Kent News 23 Aug 2012


Is axe hanging of the Hop Farm Festival for 2013?

Promoters refuse to confirm if Paddock Wood event will return next year


The future of the Hop Farm Festival appears to hang in the balance after organisers this week refused to confirm it would be returning in 2013.

The three-day event attracts tens of thousands of music fans each year and marked its fifth anniversary earlier this summer.

But the team behind the event this week refused to confirm the festival would be returning next year.

It came as two shows by the legendary Leonard Cohen were this week uprooted from the Paddock Wood venue and will be held, instead, at London’s Wembley Arena.

In a statement confirming the shows were moving out of Kent due to “unforeseen circumstances”, it was stressed there was no issue with its “suitability as a venue” - suggesting, instead, there were problems behind the scenes.

Earlier this month, Music Festivals, the listed company run by promoter Vince Power which is behind the Hop Farm Festival and the popular Spanish festival, Benicassim, issued a warning it would return losses due to poor ticket sales of the Kent event.

In a statement to shareholders it confirmed: “The group was particularly impacted by weaker than expected ticket sales at the Hop Farm Music Festival which was loss-making. The Benicassim festival continued to be profitable but at a much lower level than 2011.

“As a result, the group currently expects to report a material loss for the year ending December 31 and is exploring ways of raising additional working capital.”

Dire weather leading up to the event had been a major thorn in the side of promoters, as well as a busy summer which had seen the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations and a build-up towards the Olympic Games.

In addition, despite being one of the more competively priced festivals, the squeeze on spending due to the economy caused problems for many of the biggest names who struggled to sell-out; despite the absence this year of Glastonbury.

It would be a huge blow for the county’s music scene were the festival not to return.

Despite what was widely perceived as a lack-lustre line-up this year, with the likes of Bob Dylan, Suede and Peter Gabriel headlining, the year before had been hailed as one of the year’s best with the likes of The Eagles, Morrissey and Prince performing.

When we asked a spokesman for Vince Power to confirm the Hop Farm Festival would return for 2013, he said: “Sorry but I can’t comment further on that at this time.

“I can confirm the venue for the two Leonard Cohen performances has been moved to Wembley Arena. The concerts will be jointly promoted by AEG Live and Music Festivals PLC.

“The decision to change the venue has nothing to do with the suitability of Hop Farm as a venue. Wembley Arena is a world class venue and being an indoor arena offers protection from the unseasonal cold and wet weather this summer.

“All ticket holders will be entitled to either a full refund or a top seat at Wembley Arena.”

Vince Power said “I would like to apologise to all the customers who have already bought tickets and hope they can still enjoy what’s going to be amazing shows at Wembley Arena.”

The news of Leonard Cohen’s shows being moved - a little over two weeks before they were due to take place - surprised many.

The opening night was already a sell-out and tickets were believed to be selling well for the second night.
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by Kanga » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:43 am

Update for Ticketmaster customers - I rang this morning, chose 3, and a recorded message tells me I will receive an email with my options today, I have until 31 Aug to decide. So dont bother with the premium rate number - you should get an email.

In fairness to ticketmaster, much as I dislike booking fees, these are the circumstances when the agencies earn their cut.
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by lightasabreeze » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:15 pm

Songwriter... If as I read in your post it states that the Hop Farm may be facing financial ruin, have they cancelled all their other concerts, as they have many still advertising?
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by prettylies » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:43 pm

Hi all,

This is my first message on this forum, despite having been a frequent visitor for years and years! I always expected my first message to be something a bit more about how big a fan I am, instead of an anxious post regarding this Wembley news, but oh well. Hi. I'll be back to introduce myself properly very soon!

I wanted to add what I've heard from TicketMaster to this discussion. As there seem to be so many contradictory message out there, I phoned them today and (when finally getting through) the man on customer support did say that they would be sending an email out today asking if we wanted a refund or rebooking. (So this is still the case, even if like me you have already received a different email from Ticketmaster saying to call them).

One thing I forgot to ask though was to have the "best seats in the house presale" issue cleared up. I'm a bit confuused about this...does it mean ticketmaster customers will get the seats left after the best seats on presale have been bought?! If anyone got any clarification about this from Ticketmaster I'd love to know. Don't think I can face that hold music again today.

Thanks!
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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by songwriter » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:24 pm

lightasabreeze wrote:Songwriter... If as I read in your post it states that the Hop Farm may be facing financial ruin, have they cancelled all their other concerts, as they have many still advertising?

my understanding is it is the company behind the hop farm festival and these leonard cohen gigs run by vince power which is experiencing the difficulties. I do not know what other concerts are being held at hop farm, but if vince power is not involved with them then my guess is all will be well
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Sky News reporting change of Hop Farm venue

Post by Paula » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:46 pm

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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by Mabeanie1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:50 pm

prettylies wrote: One thing I forgot to ask though was to have the "best seats in the house presale" issue cleared up. I'm a bit confuused about this...does it mean ticketmaster customers will get the seats left after the best seats on presale have been bought?! If anyone got any clarification about this from Ticketmaster I'd love to know. Don't think I can face that hold music again today.

Thanks!
Hi prettylies & welcome to the forum.

Ticketmaster had their own specific allocation of seats for Hop Farm. I imagine they will have their own allocation for Wembley too so you shouldn't have to worry about that. The "best seats" thing probably refers to the front few rows which were sold through Eventim and (in theory) exchanged on a like for like basis.

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Re: Sky News reporting change of Hop Farm venue

Post by Mabeanie1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:56 pm

"transferred 75 miles (120 km)"???

25 miles maybe! Funny how they always twist things in the press.

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Re: URGENT: HOP FARM SHOWS TO WEMBLEY ARENA

Post by prettylies » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:10 pm

Hi prettylies & welcome to the forum.

Ticketmaster had their own specific allocation of seats for Hop Farm. I imagine they will have their own allocation for Wembley too so you shouldn't have to worry about that. The "best seats" thing probably refers to the front few rows which were sold through Eventim and (in theory) exchanged on a like for like basis.

Wendy[/quote]


Thank you Wendy - that does sound sensible. I shall stop being anxious!! (Wish I'd realised about Eventim, I'd have booked there. I was obviously not paying enough attention!).
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