Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by golo99 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:03 pm

Paris Olympia was 189 euro last time out, I recall, so not much of change (as others have said, Prague at 219 euro was even more), all down to the size of the venue. Prices seem broadly similar to the last tour.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by maltmom » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:11 pm

I went to three concerts during the last tour; Tower Theater in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania (just outside of Philadelphia - seating capacity 3119; Madison Square Garden - seating capacity 20,000 and Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas with a seating capacity of 4100. Each of these venues had a price range of $250 and under. So, the venue size may have a bearing on the price in Europe, but it does not seem so in the U.S. Thankfully, because of Jarkko and the presales, I was able to get great seats to all three in the first few rows (not that I could really afford it - credit cards topped out) - but I've seen Leonard in concert since the early 70's and it was so long since his last tour and could not miss this one. Hoping for the same this time around.

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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by da2008 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:18 pm

good luck to you, maltmom. from the looks of it, we've seen the same shows in the past:)
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by harald » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:00 pm

I posted in this thread some days ago to ask if anyone had experience with less expensive seats in Olympia of 2nd or 3rd category – and got very helpful responses, thanks to those fellows again!

This is to state that I do not want to be put in the corner of Vicomte´s arguments.
Sorry, Vicomte, I disagree with you.
L Cohen or the management can offer a concert at any price they fancy. People can always turn down the offer.
I could offer you my handshake for 10,000 Dollars. You needn´t take it. Nothing obscene about it.
Some people can afford villas in Hawaii and some can not. That´s like the world is and probably it´s right so.
And about pity. I pity people who starve, are ill without chance of treatment, have no chances in live because of being born in the wrong country and else. I certainly do not pity people, safe in the Central European social security system, if they cannot afford concert tickets.
And by the way: If they charged only 10 € a concert, there still would be many people in the world who could not afford that. Those I would pity, not the ones who could spend, say 80 €.

This forum should rightly be politics-free, and I´ll leave it with that.
Wanted just to say that with my questions I was by no means complaining or whining about the prices given.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by bean » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:14 pm

In my opinion 199 Euros is far to expensive.

If I really wanted to, yes I could afford it but I choose not to pay that price as I consider it ridiculous.

I had thought about going to Paris as there are currently no UK dates on offer but not at that price.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by Vicomte » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:58 pm

harald,

Sorry you are comparing apples with pears, it is a rather poor comparison.

How would you like it if for every question you asked on the LC forum, the person who answered you, had to be sent €100?

Nonsensical? Well of course it is, rather like your belief that the management of LC can price how they want they can but in reality they can't and don't, as they have to keep them at prices that keeps the customers coming through the door and have no doubt, they know now from the last tour just where to pitch them.

My point was, how fair are "some" of the ticket prices to LC fans on this tour. And as, I think John Etherington said, I wonder just how much LC knows, if at all, at the cost of the tickets for the tour?
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by harald » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:35 am

Cher Vicomte
well, I still disagree.
I am all for letting the market find the right price rather than some kind of self-defined elite stating what has to be the “fair” price.

But, cher Vicomte
there will be in this forum many people with many different opinions on many issues and this is very well so.
What us unifies is that we are all fans of L Cohen.
I wish you all the best and hope to meet you somewhere on the road this year.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by Paula » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:54 pm

Vicomte I agree with you I think more thought ought to have been made to the pricing structure in view of a world recession.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by John Etherington » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:26 pm

Let's look at ticket prices realistically...

In 1990 George Harrison played a one-off concert at The Royal Albert Hall. I think tickets were around £30.00, which seemed steep at the time. However because I missed out, I paid a (considerate) tout £48.00. The next higher price I paid was £50.00 in 2002 when Brian Wilson made a comeback (at the Royal Festival Hall). This seemed top whack at the time, but because I feared it might be another one-off appearance, I paid it. As it turned out the concert was great, and I went back to see Brian and his band many times in the next ten years (paying a similar amount each time).

The next higher price I paid was for Leonard at the Manchester Opera House in 2008, which was £75.00 plus booking fee (yes these had raised their ugly heads by then!). I think the price was similar when I last saw Leonard at the Liverpool Arena in 2009. Incidentally, I had best seats for all of the aforementioned shows. During these years Dylan ticket prices were more reasonable, rising from £30.00 - £50.00 gradually over a number of years, and only very recently peaking at £70.00. Open air concerts have also been cheaper - generally ranging from about £30-£50.00

Thus for Leonard tickets to leap from £75.00 (Manchester Opera House 2008) to £166.00 (Paris Olympia 2012) is nothing short of ludicrous! The more people accept such silly prices and pay touts and rip-off agencies what they ask for, the more prices will escalate. People have to power to say "no" and should do so, when they think they are being exploited.
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Re: Olympia, Paris ticket prices.......Hells Bells!

Post by bean » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:07 pm

^Fully agree. Don't get me started on booking fees and transaction fees!!!

199 Euro's is quite simply extortionate.

The most I have ever paid is circa £70 and that was for Leonard at the 02 in 2008 and I thought then (and still do) that, that was very expensive.

I paid circa £60 for Bob Dylan the following year at the 02; he was only fair at best that night so it was not particulalry good VfM.

I think circa £75 top price is the very most that any artist should be charging at the moment (and even that is expensive) prticulalry when it is in venue's such the O2 which holds 20,000 people and unless you are very lucky you will probbaly end up watching the big screen.

For most concerts I generall spend more in the region of £35 to £50 which I think is about right.
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