LC and the Yom Kippur war , 1973

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Re: LC and the Yom Kippur war , 1973

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There is a theory that the Yom Kippur war was a staged, "false flag" event that got out of hand:
http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.c ... ippur-war/

Note the presence of Henry Kissinger on the planning committee.
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Scroll down to the photo of Ariel Sharon and Moshe Dayan. The younger man standing behind Sharon would appear to be LC.

http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.c ... ippur-war/
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maybe - it looks like him but you can't really see enough of the person.
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it does look like LC
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Re: LC and the Yom Kippur war , 1973

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doesnt appear to be in thr Sinai though... looks more like yhe Golan Heights
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Ariel Sharon (the one with the bandage) was the commander of the IDF force in Sinai during the Yom Kipur war. He banged his head by accident on the command car but this picture us quite an inspiration to carry on the war even if he had nothing to do with direct combat. But we won the war on "account" of him being a brilliant commander.
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i see LC adopted the head bandage in one of his concert posters.
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seadove wrote:Ariel Sharon (the one with the bandage) was the commander of the IDF force in Sinai during the Yom Kipur war. He banged his head by accident on the command car but this picture us quite an inspiration to carry on the war even if he had nothing to do with direct combat. But we won the war on "account" of him being a brilliant commander.
Henry Kissinger also helped out (:
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mickjaggerscat wrote:
seadove wrote:Ariel Sharon (the one with the bandage) was the commander of the IDF force in Sinai during the Yom Kipur war. He banged his head by accident on the command car but this picture us quite an inspiration to carry on the war even if he had nothing to do with direct combat. But we won the war on "account" of him being a brilliant commander.
Henry Kissinger also helped out (:
Indeed.
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mickjaggerscat wrote: Henry Kissinger also helped out (:
Does HK still tell stories of Golda treating him as a bag boy? ;-)
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Of course the real question is: was this war really necessary, or was it orchestrated in Washington/Cairo/Tel Aviv.

In which case you might also ask why LC arrived "a few days" ahead of the "surprise attack" (according to Ira Nadel's biography, quoted by Doron Cohen).
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mickjaggerscat wrote:Of course the real question is: was this war really necessary, or was it orchestrated in Washington/Cairo/Tel Aviv.

In which case you might also ask why LC arrived "a few days" ahead of the "surprise attack" (according to Ira Nadel's biography, quoted by Doron Cohen).
For the conspiracy theorists who seem to believe that Leonard is 'informed' at presidential levels -- you must also believe that he was the Last Tourist in Havana as the 'eyes' for JFK who wanted to know what it looked like through eyes not belonging to an alphabet-soup agency. ;-)
I'd bet he could still beat a Trudeau in a thumb wrestle though. :)
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mickjaggerscat wrote:Of course the real question is: was this war really necessary, or was it orchestrated in Washington/Cairo/Tel Aviv.

In which case you might also ask why LC arrived "a few days" ahead of the "surprise attack" (according to Ira Nadel's biography, quoted by Doron Cohen).
There is something basic that you guys should know:

1. No one is "orchestrating" anything with regard to the Middle East conflict. There is this hate that is scratched deeply into the DNA of every Muslim all over the world. Somewhere within the Quran (G-d knows where, cause I don't know) it is written very vaguely that Jews must be obliterated from the face of the earth. This mantra has been deeply vocalized in the preechings of the Mullas in mosques all over the world. We Israelis can't help it. We cannot change this situation even if we give back the whole of Israel to them. We are in deep shit in any situation. So Washington has nothing to do with this.

2. The IDF knew about the coming attack from the two fronts one month before the war. The soldiers were on full guard as early as mid September 1973. No one in the IDF was surprised from the attack.

3. The question was differant: Should the government draft the reserves, which would place Israel as the aggresser, or should they do nothing until "something" happens?

4. The government chose "NOT" to do anything, even though everything was obvious. They knew all about it and everything was observed. We stayed put.

5. War broke at exactly 1400 hours on Saturday the 6th of October, 1973 just as it was anticipated. NO ONE WAS SURPRISED in the army and in the government.

6. Leonard Cohen came as volunteer to Israel just like the so many Jews who thought they could do something for Israel on this period of anguish. He was not in the "know" for anything and no other artists knew or got information from any top government people or army personnel. He simply joined the so many Israeli and foreign artists to entertain the troops. That is all.

7. I am not surprised that Cohen came at that time. There were a multi fold of artists who came to chip in their share. Cohen always had a sense of "belonging" to Israel at least even on his last concert here in Tel Aviv.

8. Some of you take him as a Canadian, others take him as American, or even Greek. We take him as one of us. For us he's a fellow Israeli. The very fact that his last concert was sold out to more than 55,000 spectators within 18 hours (!!!) can explain all this.
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Re: LC and the Yom Kippur war , 1973

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The fact is, he's a Canadian citizen. That means he's not your countryman, seadove. It can be a bit problematic to manage dual loyalties... that's why many secrets remain classified

As far as Havana, IMM, he spelled it out pretty clearly in FIELD COMMANDER COHEN

So why dont people get it? Guess they're waiting for the miracle while others make war by deception.

MOshe Sharret puts things in perspective. I think I'll just go with that:

http://rense.com/general31/ze.htm
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Re: LC and the Yom Kippur war , 1973

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2. The IDF knew about the coming attack from the two fronts one month before the war. The soldiers were on full guard as early as mid September 1973. No one in the IDF was surprised from the attack.

3. The question was differant: Should the government draft the reserves, which would place Israel as the aggresser, or should they do nothing until "something" happens?

4. The government chose "NOT" to do anything, even though everything was obvious. They knew a
Seadove, the historians say it was a "surprise attack" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

You say the IDF and the government knew in advance and it was no surprise. Doesnt that sound like orchestration? Lets face it: you've been brainwashed by some of the best people in the business
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