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Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:16 am
by Myrtone
You know how the first of Leonard's ten new songs opens with the female backing vocalists signing "In my secret life" four times before Cohen's lyrics come in. I played that part backwards (In GoldWave) and found something. First I thought it was gibberish (as you might expect) but I listened again, and I then thought I heard something and convinced myself. Anyone else want to try the same thing.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's serect life
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 am
by damellon
What was it you found?
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's serect life
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:50 am
by Myrtone
What I found was a
backmasked message, go try for yourself.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's serect life
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:26 am
by damellon
If I could do it myself, I wouldn't have asked you. I see the link you've given but am not familiar with it. Will investigate later. Thanks
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's serect life
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:07 pm
by tomsakic
Hm, this is the third time. Last time it was Waiting for the Miracle played backward (if I recall it well, that time it was something in Hellenic /ancient Greek/ language).
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:05 pm
by Myrtone
In the end it's not so surprising, that I'm not the first to go looking for reverse speech in Cohen's songs, given the cryptic language of his poetry makes it quite ample for this, according to David Oats' theory, which I am nevertheless somewhat "agnostic" about.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:02 pm
by Joney
Ha, ha. Share the mystery please, what are they supposed to be saying.
Funilly with the speed of my addiction to Leonard Cohen my youngest daughter commented that there might be subliminal messages in the songs. I laughed and asked her what she thought those messages might be. She replied "Join the Navy" which I think she got from an episode of the Simpsons when Bart was in a Boy Band. I like the idea of Leonard Cohen telling people to join the navy so now I think you need to share with us what you thought you heard.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:43 pm
by Myrtone
Subliminal messages? Actually, there isn't really scientific evidence, but that doesn't stop me from being interested in it, one can believe in anything until it is disproven. I feel that telling you all what it says might be cheating a bit.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:57 am
by osmachar
So what is the message then?
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:08 pm
by damellon
I thought time would tell.......but it's been over a week now.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:50 pm
by Myrtone
The "subliminal" message is nothing about joining the Navy or anything to do with
Paul McCartney's supposed death. Could it bee that no one here has the software to play sound files backwards? Those with the vinyl version could try by simply spinning the record backwards. I did email one our forum members the message, (I uploaded the sound file onto
this site and sent them a link), but I still have no reply, I might send someone else.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:27 am
by Birdonawire
Would spinning An LP backwards cause damage, or at least accelerate wear? I have a few Cohen albums on vinyl but would be hesitant to try this.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:59 am
by Myrtone
Patrick, why would an LP wear faster backwards then if played forwards, remember it has been doen before (by disc Jockeys) without making records unplayable, I would like to know the quality of you records, and the thickness of them (more gramms is better and means less wear per playing),higher quality vinyl (I'm pretty sure) lasts longer, and the turntable you use, also different cattriges operate at different contact pressures, lower means less record wear. Unless you want to disclose these details publicly, then email me directly. But then again, you may not need to, if I send you the sound file I have and you downlad it, you'll hear it.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:21 pm
by Birdonawire
Hi Myrtone, thanks for the link. Will check it out when I have time. I have a Sony turntable. It was quite expensive although I don't use it too often. May try spinning the discs backwards but still feel uneasy about it. It just seems to me that the discs would be running against the needle. The needle would then be pushing into the disc rather than being drawn across it. By the way, my name's Eric. Patrick Kavanagh is a famous Irish poet who's work I have quoted on my signature line.
Re: Backmasked message found in Cohen's Secret life
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:02 am
by Myrtone
Birdonawire wrote:May try spinning the discs backwards but still feel uneasy about it. It just seems to me that the discs would be running against the needle. The needle would then be pushing into the disc rather than being drawn across it.
Yes Eric, I forgot about the anti skating mechanism, it is true that when you spin a record backwards it would amplify the skating force, I don't know whether this mechanism can be adjusted for playing backward but you could try, there may exist some anti-skating mechanisms that can do this, I'm not sure. But I did send you the sound file, so you may not need to do this anyway.