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Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:12 pm
by Dasia
The CBC has let it be known that in the near future they’re going to make unavailable interviews Jian Ghomeshi did on the radio program Q. (He has been let go after being charged with sexual assault.) Unfortunately this would probably include the one Jian did with Leonard Cohen at his home in Montreal in 2009, which is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugh8Xe6hX7U. Some Canadians who heard this on Q on Monday morning have been objecting on the “Q on CBC Radio” Facebook page. I certainly hope they will change their minds.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:48 am
by lizzytysh
Thanks for posting this at this crucial time, Dasia. I see I spelled Jian's last name incorrectly, but this is the message I wrote on the CBC Q Radio Facebook site [in a message there, that is]:

"I've heard on NPR of your plans to remove ALL Jian Gomeshi's interviews due to the sexual assault charges against him. I certainly agree that action ought to be taken and agree with his firing. However, it's so UNFAIR to the artists themselves! He was an accessory to the interviews, NOT the star! I've just watched an EXCELLENT interview that he did with Leonard Cohen on Q TV and it's heartbreaking for people who love Leonard Cohen to think that this insight into Leonard will disappear forever. Please let the interviews with all artists stand. It will not stop people from judging Jian as he ought to be judged, but you're throwing the baby out with the bath water to remove the interviews themselves."

Re: Saving Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:07 am
by MarieM
Thank you, Dasia, for the heads up on this.

I have copied the video here:

http://youtu.be/fdR-Cfz6PM4

I would invite others to also copy this video and post the URLs of their copy in this thread so that we may have as many available as possible.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:12 pm
by rike
Dear Marie,
When I tried to open your copy of the video (I think I watched it in the past and it is, indeed, excellent) I got the message "This video is private," and could not open it. Maybe you have a way ... Thank you.
rike

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:00 pm
by lizzytysh
I had tried to post it to my Favorites, but I've either lost those altogether, or they don't show as an option for this video.
My thinking on keeping the link [which I'll do regardless] is that if CBC removes the video, which you click on the link, it will just state that it's been removed. I'm hoping that as many people as possible will write to CBC and strongly encourage them to not remove Jian's interviews because JIAN screwed up... the ARTISTS didn't!

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:06 pm
by lizzytysh
I don't know how to copy a video vs. just copy a link to it.
When I tried your link to the copied video, I got the same "private" message and a "sorry about that" ~ I can still get to the video through the link, though [and it turns out I had already copied and given myself the link to it in my email]. Don't know how long that will last, so hopefully people who've never seen it before will get to see it before it gets pulled, if it gets pulled. I'd like to think that CBC re-thought their punishment strategy.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:33 pm
by mutti
Try this link as it is still working. Click in the black space as it takes awhile to load.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugh8Xe6hX7U
Leslie

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:06 pm
by MarieM
rike wrote:Dear Marie,
When I tried to open your copy of the video (I think I watched it in the past and it is, indeed, excellent) I got the message "This video is private," and could not open it. Maybe you have a way ... Thank you.
rike
Thanks much, Rike. I have changed it to unlisted.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:17 am
by rike
Thank you, all.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:30 am
by mutti
Thank you Marie!
Leslie

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:23 pm
by UrPal
There must be whole careers for people in the industry now erasing the radio/televisual archives of disgraced celebrities or re-editing programmes to remove any hint of their former presence. It strikes me as ahistorical, a bit weird and slightly Stalinist, but then you gotta laugh....After all, you've only got to change over to a history channel and your almost guaranteed to hit a programme featuring an undeleted Adolf Hitler strutting his stuff.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:41 pm
by lizzytysh
Yes, I think the inclusion of these videos is as instructive and deleting them we learn nothing.
Such as the irony that Jian is so intent on getting an answer from Leonard regarding women's impact on his life [destructive/constructive] when, it turns out that he [through women] ended up very destructive in his own life on this very topic. And, in fact, Leonard offers so much wisdom in this video that we can all find instructive.

Let history stand where it may! It reminds me of the Book Burning.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:23 am
by HelenOE
lizzytysh wrote:Yes, I think the inclusion of these videos is as instructive and deleting them we learn nothing.
Such as the irony that Jian is so intent on getting an answer from Leonard regarding women's impact on his life [destructive/constructive] when, it turns out that he [through women] ended up very destructive in his own life on this very topic. And, in fact, Leonard offers so much wisdom in this video that we can all find instructive.

Let history stand where it may! It reminds me of the Book Burning.
I thought, when I head the news about Ghomeshi's firing (less than two weeks after I shook his hand after the Q taping in Los Angeles) that the truest thing he said in that interview was when he told Leonard he was afraid of death.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:34 pm
by Cate
I'm glad to see the interviews are still there. I think our culture of pretending uncomfortable events didn't happen needs to change. We had a lot of great discussion here after Jian was charged (that was good) but then there's that desire to erase him - okay everybody, let's collectively agree this person no longer exists ... well that feels better, it's my instinct as well, but I doubt that that's helpful.

Re: Leonard Cohen interview with Jian Ghomeshi

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:57 pm
by cohenadmirer
Has to be said that it was Mr Ghomeshi's ' problems' that raised my awareness of him.
Until all this i was well aware of that good interview with Leonard a few years ago but wouldn't have been able to put a name to the interviewer!
I doubt he's well known outside of Canada ?