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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:42 am

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IT HURT ME TOO - MARVIN GAYE & THE VANDELLAS
(analysis by leonard cohen)

DRUMS SHUFFLING: SHNN shnn shnn SHNN shnn
ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS: Zunga zunga zunga (a promise of incessant regular sex pumping)
MARVIN: I could have left zunga zunga zunga (he's got all the time in the world - he's traveled a long path to tell this cruel story) and said (electric pulse breathing) I told you so
VANDELLAS: told you so (a battalion of black girls, his officers recruited from bombed gospel altars, they ambush me with unspecific hatred and white teeth)
MARVIN: I could have told the whole wide world he leave you sad and blue
VANDELLAS: sad and blue
MARVIN: Shaid I coov ran VANDELLAS: Ahhhhhhhh and said ahhhhhhhh it's good for you ahhhhhhhh to geh now ahhhhhhhh (STOP!)
MARVIN: But I know when it hurt you
DRUM: Smack!
MARVIN: don't you know it hurt me too?
VANDELLAS: hurt me too (they had soared away into universal love suffering but now they are back in uniform, more precise now, as if they had vowed to guard themselves against a fatal emotional excess, chop / chop / chop /)
DRUMS CLIMB FIVE STEPS. MARVIN WHEELS OUT OF HIS CORNER FOR THE SECOND ROUND. THIS WILL BE TO THE DEATH. THE VANDELLAS ARE READY TO SUCK-MURDER THE VICTOR.
MARVIN: I could have said that you had it coming to you (Who are you Marvin Gaye? You have a strange command. I think you have been through some ordeal and have learned too much. You are the king of some slum block and you have handed down Laws)
VANDELLAS: coming to you (they take off their luminous bras and drive to fearful heart like a squadron of kamikaze)
MARVIN: When you walked out and turned your back on me
VANDELLAS: back on me
MARVIN: I pleaded Baby (his strength is established, his troops are in razor order, now he can weep over us) Ohh No! Please Plea Please! VANDELLAS: Ahhhhhhhhhh Baby don't go! Cause I knew he would hurt you (back to superior narrative style) DIDACTIC DRUM THUMP Don't you know it hurt me too?
VANDELLAS: hurt me too Ah Ah Ah (step down the marble stairs to lift his head)
MARVIN: He said he had you dancing on a string (in some sad locker-room where all male lovers recreate, Marvin has heard the details of the lay)
VANDELLAS: Ahhhhhhhh (Revenge! Revenge! but don't we still bleed, Sisters?)
MARVIN: As far as love goes you were
VANDELLAS: Hah! (they purge their hatred with this exclamation)
MARVIN: just another fling Oh I oh oh oh I may be a fool (but we know you're not, nor am I, for we deal with sacred material. Oh, God. All states of love give power!) to love you the way I do
VANDELLAS: the way I do (a sweet punctuation. Now they are women waiting for their men, soft and wet they squat on balconies looking for our smoke signals, touching themselves)
MARVIN: Don't you realise even fools have feelings too? So baby
VANDELLAS: Ahhhhhhhhh
MARVIN: C'mon back (a command) and let me dry (a hope) the tears (the real life of pity) from your eye (one eye, darling, one eye at a time)
MARVIN AND THE VANDELLAS WHIP THEMSELVES WITH ELECTRIC BRAIDS Cause I would never hurt you
VANDELLAS: I would never hurt you
MARVIN: No no I would never hurt you
VANDELLAS: I would never hurt you
MARVIN: Cause Baby when it hurt you
DRUM: Swak!
MARVIN: Don't you know it hurts me too?
VANDELLAS: hurt me too
MARVIN: It hurts me so bad
VANDELLAS: hurt me too
MARVIN: I never desert you
VANDELLAS: hurt me too
MARVIN: It hurts me so much stronger
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:15 pm

i looked for you in everyone, and they called me on that too.
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the light is on the left side of your head - van morrison (ballerina)
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:32 pm

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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by solongleonard » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:10 pm

Geoffrey wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:15 pm
i looked for you in everyone, and they called me on that too.
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the light is on the left side of your head - van morrison (ballerina)
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get that ugly fucker off the screen!

whoever she is, she may have beauty in her soul, or wit in her pants. but do we have to look at her?

part of her face is familiar, maybe she has an "everybody nose".

She was born as T Genstein "‘A man thought he was the only person in the world until he looked in the mirror’." After that cracker they renamed her as Wit tgenstein. She took that philosophically.
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:08 pm

solongleonard wrote:
>get that ugly f***** off the screen!
>
>whoever she is, she may have beauty in her soul, or wit in her pants. but do we have to look at her?


it is possible for anyone, even princess diana, brad pitt, isabella rossellini or elvis, to humorously contort their faces and appear less than attractive. being a portraitist, or having studied a little physiognomy, one learns to differentiate between a weak and a strong countenance. for a man to appear intelligent there are several aspects to look for, but the singular most important feature is his chin. it is essential that it reaches the same vertical plane as the lips, as occurs on the particular person above, to whom you refer. it is an interesting face, containing much character, certainly nothing its owner should feel bashful about - quite the reverse. to emphasise my point, i have just sketched yet another example of a good well-formed profile with excellent contours. take care, dear friend - and remember to always walk proud :)
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:30 pm

i would like, if i may, thank everyone who has made this 'gallery' one of the most popular in jarkko's forum. mathematics is not one of my strong areas, but in the two years since this thread began i think it has received something like a thousand 'hits' per week - a reasonably good result. once again, thank you, and please stay as safe as possible while we go through this awful pandemic!
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it should be noted that i indulge in a habit of correcting leonard's facial dissymmetry, though i think it is of little consequence. one would need a keen eye to spot it, and in any case it's normally mostly visible only when he is viewed straight on. cranial changes during infancy - which is not uncommon - may have caused his left ear to be a little lower than his right, for example. genetics can also play a part, we must remember. also, in his later years it became more and more apparent that his left eye opening was slightly smaller than his right, a condition called ptosis (drooping lid?) - caused by a weakening levator muscle. there are other facial imbalances, and some of them could be described as charming (the way the left-hand side of his mouth lifts during a smile, for example), but such traits are usually only consciously observed by an astute person accustomed to studying a person's features.

the reason i tend to ignore leonard's facial peculiarities is because people scrutinise paintings or sketches more than they would a photograph, thus any uneven characteristics are considered artistic errors - and it's unfair to blame me for mother nature's quirks. photographs are seldom questioned. the big shadow under a person's nose can resemble a hitler or chaplin moustache, the philtrum shadow above the lips can give the impression of a nosebleed, yet in a photograph all is happily accepted and goes virtually unnoticed. a pity such details become less hidden in a sketch.
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:37 pm

"if art doesn't surprise, it's not art" -geoffrey wren
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by LisaLCFan » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:48 pm

Geoffrey wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:30 pm
...it should be noted that i indulge in a habit of correcting leonard's facial dissymmetry, though i think it is of little consequence. one would need a keen eye to spot it ...
such traits are usually only consciously observed by an astute person accustomed to studying a person's features...
I've always thought that Leonard's facial dissymmetry was actually very obvious (and thus it always vexes me to see published photos of him that have been reversed -- i.e. like mirror images -- because the asymmetries are on the wrong side!). It is my understanding that very few people have perfectly symmetrical faces, or bodies, for that matter, as the measurements of left and right sides often do not match precisely.

I wouldn't say that I am accustomed to studying a person's features, because that seems to suggest a deliberate action for a specific purpose, however, I am extremely observant and thus tend to notice all the little details.

Oh, and I really like the coffee and pencil portrait of Leonard!
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:14 pm

dear lisa.

portraits are challenging, because hands and faces are notoriously difficult, but as with everything; practice (plus a little luck), goes a long way. i believe you when you write I am extremely observant, so if you have not already tried portraits, perhaps you should. it is questionable whether there is any such thing as originality, but that is a big subject. my personal philosophy is to not worry too much about anything, but just use intelligence, speed, and do whatever comes to mind, see what happens. you must not feel any pressure from me, merely mild encouragement, but any portraits you make, as well as anything else, would always be worth seeing.

using coffee is an interesting experience, and the brushes clean out afterwards with warm water no matter how hard they've become. i did a number of coffee pics some time ago, a very popular medium. one just fills a cup halfway with instant coffee powder, pours in a little boiling water and mixes to a fluid paste, like liquid tar, before letting it cool. pour into an airtight receptacle and it will keep more or less indefinitely. when using it dries as quickly as acrylic, repeated coats make darker, added water lighter. so many different shades, cheap and effective.

no obligation to reply, i just felt like sitting at the computer to relax for a minute or two before tidying the apartment. it's a complete mess, and someone is coming to visit me. thank you for writing, especially for the kind comment at the end of your message :)

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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by LisaLCFan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:23 pm

Geoffrey wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:14 pm
dear lisa.
...if you have not already tried portraits, perhaps you should.... you must not feel any pressure from me, merely mild encouragement, but any portraits you make, as well as anything else, would always be worth seeing...

Thank you! I haven't tried portraits in years -- I did a few as a teenager, drawings mainly -- "people" were my thing for a while back then, not just portraits but whole people, too. As always, I shall keep your suggestions and encouragement in mind! Cheers!

Oh, and thanks for the instructions on making coffee paint!
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:19 pm

LisaLCFan wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:23 pm
Geoffrey wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:14 pm
dear lisa.
...if you have not already tried portraits, perhaps you should.... you must not feel any pressure from me, merely mild encouragement, but any portraits you make, as well as anything else, would always be worth seeing...

Thank you! I haven't tried portraits in years -- I did a few as a teenager, drawings mainly -- "people" were my thing for a while back then, not just portraits but whole people, too. As always, I shall keep your suggestions and encouragement in mind! Cheers!

Oh, and thanks for the instructions on making coffee paint!
thank you. am glad to learn you will not discard the suggestion. take care of your old work, if you still have it. i too like drawing people. some of my pictures are poor, but criticism never hurts, just provides information. this lark is not taken seriously anyway, just therapeutic fun :-)
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by Geoffrey » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:13 pm

let us compare mythologies
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Post by LisaLCFan » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Oooh! I love the one of Leonard (the invisible man) with his guitar. Very cool!

May I enquire as to the media you used? (No signature, I see...)
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Post by Geoffrey » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:09 pm

LisaLCFan wrote:
>Oooh! I love the one of Leonard (the invisible man) with his guitar. Very cool! May I enquire as to the media you used? (No signature, I see...)

so glad you are interested enough to enquire, lisa. without curiosity we cease to evolve.

the picture is based upon a monochrome WPAP illustration made two or three years ago using vector graphics. it was surely posted in this forum at the time, and in any case later appeared in an obscure cohen publication.

this new version was redone by hand, superimposed onto a checkered corrugated cardboard background before being put through a potpourri of software programmes until landing upon a colourful result that was not totally useless. not really difficult, but like everything in life (at least for me) becomes tedious if it takes too long - which is perhaps why i often tend to wander off onto a different subject when participating in lengthy discussions. there is this craving for variation, as if entrapment has occurred - à la bill murray in groundhog day.

signature: to be honest, i always feel a little uncomfortable writing my name because it suggests the presence of ego. taking responsibility for something is one thing, but taking credit for it is unnecessary.
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Re: never-ending gallery

Post by LisaLCFan » Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:35 pm

Geoffrey wrote:
Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:09 pm
...the picture is based upon a monochrome WPAP illustration made two or three years ago using vector graphics. it was surely posted in this forum at the time...

this new version was redone by hand, superimposed onto a checkered corrugated cardboard background before being put through a potpourri of software programmes until landing upon a colourful result that was not totally useless...

Yes, I recall seeing the image before, sans colourful background. Thanks for the additional info!
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