"come forth from the cloud of unknowing . . ."

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Post by Geoffrey » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:08 pm

hello june.

that article seems familiar, so i must have read it earlier. it's quite interesting; so thanks for again nudging me in its direction.

no, i am certainly not an artist by profession, indeed there is a reluctance to call myself an artist at all. the word 'painter' is preferred, but even that seems a grand title for someone who merely doodles for fun. nevertheless i thank you sincerely for your generosity. i mind not at all what happens to any pictures. i have tried to keep a record of them all, but there are so many that it seems an impossible task. it is flattering to know that you appreciate them; please feel free to do as you wish. leonard was always approachable, was fond of virtually everyone - and i am just one of many in his closest circle. so it's a pity you didn't know him better. he often said he had no fans, only friends.

as for the items he sent me, i am regretting mentioning them, because they are so numerous, books, letters, artwork, clothing, dietary supplement (now out of date), CDs, flowers (thrown out now), mugs, jewellery, etc., etc. - i have no overview (is that a word? in norwegian it is 'jeg har ikke oversikt'). here below at least is a photograph of a few things assembled quickly onto a coffee table.

well, this was a lot about myself and little about you - please accept my apologies. should you write again, it would be nice to know something more about your interests, but only if you wish to do so. meanwhile, good day to you, my dear.

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Post by solongleonard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:10 pm

Geoffrey also used to write here under the name Jack Lazari UK which was a subtle alias! He used an anagram of Lazarus ("he rises again") and UK is the island where Geoffrey was born and raised til he was batmitzvahed. The rising again is at the heart of the investigation being led here by Sir Chris. Those who can not believe a dear one has passed will often proclaim that they are not dead at all!!! Their emotions can not cope with the truth. The Artist Sir Chris will paint and paint, spending many hours for each piece and thus prove his subject lives on. As the old saying goes "Geoffrey did not build St Paul's cathedral in a day".

My dear teacher Miss Winston Callaghan, often used to say to the Children "Hello, Children". It doesn't explain Leonard's passing precisely but it gives a beautiful perspective.
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Post by Geoffrey » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:38 pm

solongleonard wrote:Geoffrey also used to write here under the name Jack Lazari UK which was a subtle alias! He used an anagram of Lazarus ("he rises again") and UK is the island where Geoffrey was born and raised til he was batmitzvahed. The rising again is at the heart of this investigation being run here by Sir Chris. Those who can not believe a dear one has passed will often proclaim that they are not dead at all!!! Their emotions can not cope with the truth. The Artist Sir Chris will paint and paint, spending many hours for each piece and thus prove their subject lives on. My dear teacher Miss Winston O'Calagghan, often used to say to the Children "Hello, Children". It doesn't explain Leonard's passing precisely but it rather helps doesn't it!
there is a line in one of leonard's songs 'i see you've gone and changed your name again'. good to see you, and i knew you wouldn't manage to live without me for very long ;-)
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Post by Violet » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:40 pm

Ah, Geoffrey, I see you had the same idea..
solongleonard wrote:Geoffrey also used to write here under the name Jack Lazari UK which was a subtle alias! He used an anagram of Lazarus ("he rises again") and UK is the island where Geoffrey was born and raised til he was batmitzvahed. The rising again is at the heart of this investigation being run here by Sir Chris. Those who can not believe a dear one has passed will often proclaim that they are not dead at all!!! Their emotions can not cope with the truth. The Artist Sir Chris will paint and paint, spending many hours for each piece and thus prove their subject lives on. My dear teacher Miss Winston O'Calagghan, often used to say to the Children "Hello, Children". It doesn't explain Leonard's passing precisely but it rather helps doesn't it!
You wouldn't happen to be Lord Mickey O, would you?

(I can't believe I'm back here in the lunatic asylum)

Anyway, the point is, grieving takes its own sweet time. And when you're close to someone, as Geoffrey was to Leonard, it's natural that you'd want to understand better the circumstances of the departed one's death. I think it's fitting that the departed one's public has more information regardless, but that's a slightly different topic.

You know, it's the "Hello, Children" line that gives you away, I think. Some (obviously deranged) part of me recognized this.

Anyway, to those, like poor June here, who are new to these regions: leave here while you can still get out! And remember I warned you (!)

(I'm joking).. (sort of)

(although I still recommend you go before you get too attached -- to what, I still don't know, and look at how many posts I have)

[sigh]
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Post by solongleonard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:43 pm

Geoffrey wrote:
solongleonard wrote:Geoffrey also used to write here under the name Jack Lazari UK which was a subtle alias! He used an anagram of Lazarus ("he rises again") and UK is the island where Geoffrey was born and raised til he was batmitzvahed. The rising again is at the heart of this investigation being run here by Sir Chris. Those who can not believe a dear one has passed will often proclaim that they are not dead at all!!! Their emotions can not cope with the truth. The Artist Sir Chris will paint and paint, spending many hours for each piece and thus prove their subject lives on. My dear teacher Miss Winston O'Calagghan, often used to say to the Children "Hello, Children". It doesn't explain Leonard's passing precisely but it rather helps doesn't it!
there is a line in one of leonard's songs 'i see you've gone and changed your name again'. good to see you, and i knew you wouldn't manage to live without me for very long ;-)

the day we lived together, Chris, was among the 3 thousand best of my life! compliments do come a lot higher than that.
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Post by solongleonard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:48 pm

As my old deputy head teacher, Mr Winnie O'Hooligan, used to say "let's hope it doesn't descend into mindless Violet, someone should be hurt". He never explained who that someone was but I think we all knew somehow.


He also used to point to the road sign outside the school gates marked "Bedlam 2 miles" . Ah, that way Madness lies.
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Post by Violet » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:52 pm

solongleonard wrote:As my old deputy head teacher, Mr Winnie O'Hooligan, used to say "let's hope it doesn't descend into mindless Violet, someone should be hurt". He never explained who that someone was but I think we all knew somehow.


He also used to point to the road sign outside the school gates marked "Bedlam 2 miles" . Ah, that way Madness lies.

Yes, well, as the veterans here know, things could become a lot more "mindlessly Violet" around here if certain trends once again take hold.

Geoffrey, this is your thread. It's up to you to keep things in order.
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Post by solongleonard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:05 pm

Violent has got a point, Chris. I suggest Alphabetical. Violent prefers Benedictine but I'm having Nun of that.
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Post by Violet » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:40 pm

solongleonard wrote:Violent has got a point, Chris. I suggest Alphabetical. Violent prefers Benedictine but I'm having Nun of that.
That's Hypothetical to you, thank you very much.
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Post by juneC » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:29 am

Thank you Violet for the warning… I suspect you were right to give it, I am feeling somewhat like the proverbial fish out of water finding it a bit tricky attempting to decipher some of the more cryptic comments on here. I gather you all know each other very well even solongleonard who I thought was a newbie like myself but no it seems he/she has merely changed their name again. :? Thank you solongleonard for the explanation in respect of Leonard ‘not being actually dead’. Thank you Geoffrey for responding to my request for pictures of ‘the items that he sent you’ - what an interesting assortment .. many more items there than just ‘a monkey and a plywood violin’ obviously… and you say that is just a small representation! wow .. I’m sure you must be underplaying the depth of your friendship with Leonard, or did he spend much of his life posting gifts off to numerous friends the world over?

Update to the above: You are clearly an amazing individual Geoffrey, I have just now found your Facebook page and seen the beautiful photos of you with Leonard not to mention the many examples of your art - all amazing may I add. I love the way you and Leonard are looking at each other … your mutual love and respect for one another so evident in these photos.
Now I am in tears having just seem the picture of the beautiful lilies and roses and your comment above it. Wishing even more that I might have had the honour of knowing him personally and feeling even more affectionately towards him and sadder than ever.
Thank you for your kindness Geoffrey - you have many admiring friends and I do appreciate that you have taken the time to respond to my rather naive posts.

June x
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Post by Violet » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:44 am

juneC wrote:Thank you Violet for the warning… I suspect you were right to give it, I am feeling somewhat like the proverbial fish out of water finding it a bit tricky attempting to decipher some of the more cryptic comments on here. I gather you all know each other very well even solongleonard who I thought was a newbie like myself but no it seems he/she has merely changed their name again. :? Thank you solongleonard for the explanation in respect of Leonard ‘not being actually dead’. Thank you Geoffrey for responding to my request for pictures of ‘the items that he sent you’ - what an interesting assortment .. many more items there than just ‘a monkey and a plywood violin’ obviously… and you say that is just a small representation! wow .. I’m sure you must be underplaying the depth of your friendship with Leonard, or did he spend much of his life posting gifts off to numerous friends the world over?

Update to the above: You are clearly an amazing individual Geoffrey, I have just now found your Facebook page and seen the beautiful photos of you with Leonard not to mention the many examples of your art - all amazing may I add. I love the way you and Leonard are looking at each other … your mutual love and respect for one another so evident in these photos.
Now I am in tears having just seem the picture of the beautiful lilies and roses and your comment above it. Wishing even more that I might have had the honour of knowing him personally and feeling even more affectionately towards him and sadder than ever.
Thank you for your kindness Geoffrey - you have many admiring friends and I do appreciate that you have taken the time to respond to my rather naive posts.

June x
Oh, June June June June June. You have painted such a lovely portrait here with your words and heartfelt emotion. If you go now you can keep that pristine impression in your heart and mind for the rest of your life. So, why spoil it?

However, it's clear you're already smitten, and so there's no saving you. For my part, I'm already plotting my exit. Okay, my second exit. I just CAN'T have happen to me again what happened to me before. I just can't.

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Post by Sideways » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:22 am

Sorry, I need some help here. I have been away at the Montreal 17th Naked Ironing Open Era Area Quarter Finals (placed 2nd!!). I welcome the gently amusing work of June and Violet but I don't understand why Geoffrey Wren is now being called Sir Chris? Explanation please.

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Post by solongleonard » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:24 am

word of advice Sue - Google is your friend

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wren
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Post by Violet » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:04 am

Sorry, I need some help here. I have been away at the Montreal 17th Naked Ironing Open Era Area Quarter Finals (placed 2nd!!). I welcome the gently amusing work of June and Violet but I don't understand why Geoffrey Wren is now being called Sir Chris? Explanation please.

Sideways Sue
solongleonard wrote:word of advice Sue - Google is your friend

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wren
Sue, as opposed to the 17th c. architect, I assumed it was a nod to Christ -- you know, given the Lazarus bit.

I suppose, since this is a loony bin revival of sorts, I should say hello to a few of the other mental patients before I take my leave. Is fish still around?.. sporting her wares.. (as it were).. and writing her rancid prose?
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Post by Geoffrey » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:57 am

juneC wrote:
>I’m sure you must be underplaying the depth of your friendship with Leonard, or did he spend much of his life posting gifts off to numerous friends the world over?

>Update to the above: You are clearly an amazing individual Geoffrey, I have just now found your Facebook page and seen the beautiful photos of you with Leonard not to mention the many examples of your art - all amazing may I add. I love the way you and Leonard are looking at each other … your mutual love and respect for one another so evident in these photos.
Now I am in tears having just seen the picture of the beautiful lilies and roses and your comment above it. Wishing even more that I might have had the honour of knowing him personally and feeling even more affectionately towards him and sadder than ever.
Thank you for your kindness Geoffrey - you have many admiring friends and I do appreciate that you have taken the time to respond to my rather naive posts.
>
>June x

dear june

on facebook i have far too many followers. i do my best to respond to every message, even the private ones - and usually manage it. there is a saying "if you want something done, ask the busiest person" - and i think there is some truth in that. the more you do, the easier it becomes to do even more. an old man such as myself, known to be lazy and ambitionless by nature, has no alternative but to accept what he is, a dead leaf caught in a gust of wind. it seems as though i am alive, moving through the landscape, but appearances deceive. people give me praise, make me sound important, but i know the truth is far from that. i socialise a great deal, write a vignette or two, play my guitar, paint a few pictures - but none of that can be compared to the construction men outside my home who work all night, their faces black with smoke and tar, their backs bent over as they stressfully shovel and rake boiling asphalt behind huge, noisy paver vehicles in preparation for the waiting steamrollers. when i see this, i know i am nothing, i couldn't survive ten minutes - it would kill me.

-gx
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