Poem for Geoffrey

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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Manna » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:07 pm

I don't feel all that comfortable trying to characterize Michael, especially in public.
In my case, to meet him is to want to punch him, but to get to know him is to formulate affection. I like him very much, and I promise I won't punch him.

Warning, the following statements are generalizations, not absolutes, neither absolutions.

Girls like to be nice to boys.
Boys don't like to be nice to boys.

I have felt lately (past several months) that the sense of community I first encountered here has been lacking. This saddened me because I have friends here. I blamed it, quite rationally, on myself. But when everyone rallies for the sake of showing someone that we love him, it makes it all better. It reinforces the community.
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by sirus » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:35 pm

It's raining, dark clouds hover making my world dark and my cappucino cold.
I am a nasty man and I behave badly most of the time. Perhaps I would be different if somebody loved me.
Perhaps.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Cate » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:39 pm

Well said Manna.
it reminds me of being a kid when parents would argue - running around quietly trying to clean things up while at the same time trying to hide everyone's shoes. Maybe it's what Violet said and there's some cosmic body to close to us or maybe our spring energy is being misused and it's spilling over the wrong way. Christ I found myself yelling, at Lizzy of all people.
I think a love fest is just what we need, that plus some people who are missing to come back again.
I bet the Forum Members who have been around longer are feeling it even more. I miss the people who seemed like a part of the fondation here when I first came; Laurie, Jack, Michael and Greg (who I was happy to read last night) but those who have been around longer, have a longer list.

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oh shoot, sorry Sirus

that's probably what we need more of...

Look up Ms. V, look up... (he says he's been very bad!!!)

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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by lizzytysh » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:47 pm

Dear Geoffrey ~

I was going to PM you with this; however, you don't have the PM option in place, so I'll just put it here, instead.

Your poignant, desolate, and heartrending observation "Strange how one can hold a hand one day, and the next day it's more than a billion light-years away" just keeps reverberating. In those few words, Geoffrey, it expresses so much of the emptiness in your loss. So many years gone. I've not looked at the photo, yet, but I will. When I read and now hear your words in my being, I see and feel your hands together, and I see and feel you now, moving through your days alone and standing at your window. I'm so sorry, Geoffrey. My heart is with you. Your words just keep reverberating.


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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by lizzytysh » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:51 pm

Christ I found myself yelling, at Lizzy of all people.
Yes, Cate, but if what you thought I'd said been what I'd actually said, you'd have had good reason to yell... or at least shown your anger, hurt, indignation, in some obvious kind of way. As it was, you yelled, and we worked it out from there.


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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Violet » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:02 pm

sirus wrote:It's raining, dark clouds hover making my world dark and my cappucino cold.
I am a nasty man and I behave badly most of the time. Perhaps I would be different if somebody loved me.
Perhaps.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Now Mr. Sirus... maybe if you smoked just two packs of cigarettes a day, instead of your usual three, you'd start to feel better... Anyway, what are you crying about? we need nasty men around here, or else it would throw off the balance of things... (that's why I've been trying to get his lordship back, after all)... So, cheer up, stiff upper lip (is that it? or is it chin? and does one have an upper chin, come to think of it...)... anyway, you know what I'm referring to... all that British sounding rot... are you British, by the way?? That really would tie you to his lordship*... I do imagine you as American as well... of that Rat Pack oeuvre... (I'm not sure that Rat Pack and the word oeuvre should ever be seen together, actually.. there's something unethical seeming about it somehow)...

Okay, you funny sexy nasty man, you... I hope you've been cheered up -- and do think about the cig thing, I think that might really help...


Still open to some lurking intrigue,

v i o l e t


* an interesting image, by the way...
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Geoffrey » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:16 pm

Have just come home. You are an inspiring bunch of people. Look forward to having a rest now, and hopefully replying with one of my 'keeping-in-touch' messages later this evening. Until then . . .
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Martine » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:36 pm

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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by sirus » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:08 pm

:twisted:
You mean like the time we agreed to cover for the catalogue of monumental fuckups your lot made?
That was the last time we agreed on something, Marti, and however much you might wish it was a million years ago...it wasn't.So be careful, babe, or I just might take the CP back.
Don't think I won't do it.
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by sirus » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:26 pm

Violet, Violet, Violet, such a sweet little flower... I'll remain as stiff as I can, just for you. Tell me sweet Violet, why did you have such a hard time on this forum when youf first posted? Who were the bas...who were the bad people that were mean to you, Violet?
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Geoffrey » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:02 am

Lizzytysh wrote:
>In those few words, Geoffrey, it expresses so much of the emptiness in your loss. So many years gone. When I read and now hear your words in my being, I see and feel your hands together, and I see and feel you now, moving through your days alone. My heart is with you. I'm so sorry, Geoffrey. It just keeps reverberating.


Hi Lizzy. Thank you. This will stay with me for a long time. I would like also to thank everyone else who has joined in here. Seems to be a very relaxful thread where people interact without pressure or a need to feel clever. I would like, if I may, to mention a little about language, and by doing so progress slightly deeper into the current discussion concerning Michael. After all, he has discussed me on frequent occasions. O.K. Remember that song called 'The Partisan'? The title projects an image of heroic freedom fighters - and romanticism, naturally. Yet in some instances there is an almost invisible nuance between the words 'partisan' and 'terrorist'. The lyrics to that song would actually not at all clash with the cause of an insurgent. Man is given blame depending on his name. "Michael is a snake, but he's OUR snake!" is one of those indelible maxims that long remain carved into the bark of one's memory - as golden as Jesus' "I am the way, the truth and the life", Descartes' "I think therefore I am" or Dylan's "The Titanic sails at dawn". It didn't read as a simple criticism of Michael, quite the contrary. It was a short and succinct truism that spoke volumes in favour of him sticking around, which I hope he always will. You know, it doesn't matter if the story of Jesus' crucifixion is without historical evidence. Just imagine the comfort that narrative has given to millions of suffering people over the past two thousand years. The inconsistencies in The Bible make it far from a water-tight book. But the paradox is that being not perfect is what makes it perfect. Likewise human beings, including Michael. The negative elements of society enrich us as equally as the positive ones. They play their parts in completing the spectre of experience. If exclusively nice things occurred in our lives we could not be capable of receiving joy, because the scales would be broken and worthless. Without the snake in Paradise mankind's emotions would be limited and meaningless, there would be no disappointment in losing, no sense of achievement in conquering. It makes a person wonder if Heaven isn't worse than Hell.
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by lizzytysh » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:19 am

Dear Geoffrey ~

Words don't come close, but it's all I have. I'm gratified knowing you appreciate them. I only wish they could do more. Please know I'm praying for you and my good thoughts are with you as you continue to remember her. May sleep bring you some peace and relief. It's tough.

Your very last sentence was the exact premise of a "Twilight Zone" episode I saw many years ago, when black-and-white TV screens were all we had. People were thrilled to find they had ended up in Heaven... and then everything they said, did, or touched went perfectly. Great at first. Then, they began to panic, as they tried to make it be different, and were powerless. By the end of the 1/2-hour segment, you [the viewer] were really feeling the horridness of unending perfection. Rod Serling had done a very convincing job on the premise that the Perfection of Heaven could really be Hell.

This is a recap on it that I found by Googling:
Full Recap
While trying to rob a pawnshop, burglar Rocky Valentine kills a night watchman and then shoots a policeman... only to be shot himself by another while fleeing the scene. Rocky revives to find himself unhurt--and in the company of a seemingly good-natured, robust gentleman named Pip. The white-haired Pip explains that he is Valentine's guide, and that he has been instructed to give Rocky anything and everything he wants. Valentine assumes he must be in Heaven, and that Pip must be his guardian angel. But everything proves to be too good, with Rocky always winning at the casino, always getting any and every girl he wants. After a month, this becomes so stifling that Valentine begs Pip to send him to "the Other Place." Pip gleefully confirms Rocky's worst suspicion: "This is the other place!"
I really liked your scale-is-broken analogy. Exactly right.


~ Lizzy
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by Violet » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:20 am

... okay, I haven't been able to focus on any of the posts after one post in particular by Mr. Sirus... so please all forgive me if I get to other matters a bit later on...
sirus wrote:Violet, Violet, Violet, such a sweet little flower... I'll remain as stiff as I can, just for you. Tell me sweet Violet, why did you have such a hard time on this forum when youf first posted? Who were the bas...who were the bad people that were mean to you, Violet?
... hmm... I'm not sure why you’re saying that... are you trying to trick me into something here? (… you funny sexy extra nasty man, you)… you know at first I thought you were suggesting you were a stiff, which didn't seem a very accurate characterization (especially after your second martini)... but then I suddenly realized what it was in fact you were refer -- oh, never mind... (you f.s.e.n.m., you)... You know, it may have to do with that far off, contemplative expression on your face, or the way you hold your cigarette... or even that nostalgic bow tie of yours –- oh, and all that hazy smoke, of course... but whatever it is... what was I saying?...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57tK6aQS_H0
FULL SCREEN, if you know what’s good for you…
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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by lizzytysh » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:33 am

[And then Twilight Time and Unchained Melody, too... thanks for finding and linking this, Violet, and taking me back to when those songs were my songs. Such a lovely, beautiful presentation of this one.

Okay... carry on, as I know you will ;-) .]


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Re: Poem for Geoffrey

Post by imaginary friend » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:47 am

Of course it's in his eyes – and quite possibly the cause of the
dark clouds hover(ing)
above his head too...
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