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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby wakeupmartin on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:25 pm

Geoffrey, forgive me for intruding on your question to jazz, but I couldn't resist. It is a Tibetan/Buddhist mantra. The most famous there is. You find it all over Tibet and that region, painted on houses, temples, walls, rocks. A sort of spiritual graffiti:

Om
ma
ne
padme
hum

Om mane padme hum.

Often translated by Westerners as "The Jewel in the Lotus" (mane=jewel, padma=lotus in Sanskrit). Actually, like many Buddhist mantras, it is an evocation of a symbolic figure representing some aspect of enlightement. In this case it is the mantra of Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion. So essentially it is represents a very deep wish, or prayer even, for the welfare and happiness of all beings.
For more info, you could start here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om_mani_padme_hum
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Diane on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:26 pm

Patrycja wrote:it looks like Tibetan Sanskrit.




Yes, Geoffrey that script means om mani padme hum, which is a Tibetan Buddhist chant.


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The Concise Oxford Dictionary of World Religions 1997 JOHN BOWKER

Oṃ maṇi padme hum (Tib. pron.: Om maṇi pehme hung). The mantra of Avalokiteśvara (Tib., Chenrezig). In spite of being the most well-known and commonly recited mantra of Tibet, where it is to be found inscribed everywhere, from homes to mountain passes and roadside rocks, it has been greatly misunderstood. Usual translations, such as ‘Oh, the jewel is in the lotus’ or ‘hail to the jewel in the lotus’, are misconceived. Oṃ and hum are invocation syllables which require no translation; maṇi (‘jewel’) is not a word but a stem, and therefore joins padme (‘lotus’) to make a single word,maṇipadme (‘jewel-lotus’) which is feminine and locative. This suggests a female deity being invoked, called Maṇipadmā, the problem being that no such deity is recorded anywhere. The usual translations may have no linguistic accuracy but they do closely express through the separation of the words jewel (male, form) and lotus (female, emptiness) a sense of the symbolism of opposites at the heart of manifestation in Mahāyāna Buddhism. The possibility of the present form of the mantra being a corruption of its original Sanskrit cannot be dismissed.


oh, wakeupmartin, you beat me to it:-)!
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Geoffrey on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:02 pm

Thank you, Patrycja, wakeupmartin and Diane. The little Sherlock Holmes residing within me has been put to shame by your superb investigative work. I did manage to find the little scorpion, though, at:
http://www.vajragallery.com/paintings/p0029_31.html

I am sorrowfully aware that I have caused this 'Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order' column to deviate away from its intended theme, so will now offer my humble appreciation for the help afforded me, thank you for your tolerance - and graciously withdraw from further irrelevant activity here.

On parting, however, I do remain somewhat confused. The address on the 'Stranger Management' letterhead (or logo) states only 'Los Angeles, CA 90004' (no 'USA'), indicating that it was primarily meant only for national circulation. I find it difficult to believe that the average American recipient of 'Stranger Management' correspondence would be familiar with Tibetan Sanskrit, or recognise the mantra of Avalokiteśvara. So what would be the point?
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby lizzytysh on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:55 am

Well, her handwriting was very beautiful. I wonder if it has undergone changes with all of this.

As far as what would be the point on the decorative aspects of the stationery, my feeling would be that it's there to express or make a personal statement, for those who know to understand, and those who don't, but are interested, to find out. Not quite as much for the benefit of others as for a personal statement of one's own.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Geoffrey on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:48 pm

lizzytysh remarked:
>Well, her handwriting was very beautiful. I wonder if it has undergone changes with all of this.

If not the content of her messages were mostly of a sensitive nature, I could willingly have shown a larger example. Yet if you click on a link supplied by Jarkko further back in this very column, you can download a courthouse folder containing several lengthy letters written quite recently by her hand. Personally, I have never considered her handwriting to be particularly special, neither before nor after her metamorphosis - though people do say I possess an eccentric definition of beauty. I saw her not in person, only via one or two photographs - and an assessment of her physical appearance concluded to me that she was not without a certain attractiveness. She reminded me vaguely of the singer Julee Cruise, although I am aware that in real-life she may not have resembled Ms Cruise one iota. Now, please do not jump to the assumption that I have a 'weak spot' for Ms Cruise, but anyone fortunate enough to share one or two of those facial features would be hard-pushed to be anything less than stunning. Therefore it came as no surprise to me to learn that Leonard made love to his Julee Cruise look-a-like - for I would have done precisely the same. In another post, describing her current looks, you wrote "She [KL] appears to have lost the feminine part of herself." Yes, this does indeed seem to be the case, I'm sorry to say. The courtroom camera may have caught her at a bad angle, of course, but when comparing that photograph to ones from earlier, the difference is extreme. Generally speaking, the female of our species (especially) does have a tendency to become less pretty once maturity has been reached. Yet I have seen recent videos of Ms Cruise, and the voluptiousness remains intact. -G
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby lizzytysh on Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:11 pm

Your accounting of Ms Cruise's retention of her physical beauty could relate quite directly to her lack of mental illness and/or stress.
Both of these factors will have direct impacts on people of either gender.
Many women retain their beauty as they age. Kelley's apparent loss of it appears clearly to be non-age related, though.
I'd be more inclined to account it to a bad camera angle or shot, except that the stress shows throughout her face... chronic stress related to the mental torment going on inside.

On Kelley's handwriting, it would be interesting to see a handwriting analyst's comments... like do the two large differences in the sizes of her f's have significance, etc. Maybe, one day, you'll be able to share an example of handwriting that you consider beautiful [in another section, maybe ;-) ].

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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Elizabeelzebubeth on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:47 am

Sorry, but that translation is a little off. If you examine the script more carefully, you will find that it says:

Ooh,
Lenny
money --
Yum!
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby LisaLCFan on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:15 am

Elizabeelzebubeth wrote:Sorry, but that translation is a little off. If you examine the script more carefully, you will find that it says:

Ooh,
Lenny
money --
Yum!


:lol:

But seriously, I wish peace for Leonard Cohen, and I hope that this woman will finally leave him alone (along with everyone else she has harrassed).
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Elizabeelzebubeth on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:56 pm

Me too. It's all so horrendous.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby lizzytysh on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:27 pm

:lol: from me, too... hilarious hit of insight.
And agreement on your last post, as well.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby wakeupmartin on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:43 pm

Elizabeelzebubeth wrote:Ooh,
Lenny
money --
Yum!

very good! :)
Actually I was thinking that surely there must be some kind of hope for KL (perhaps in the cosmic scheme of things) if at one point in her life she felt it worthwhile to print a mantra, the essense of which is the wish for the end of suffering for all beings without exception, on her headed paper.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Elizabeelzebubeth on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:30 am

Ehhh, she was probably just trying to impress Leonard so that he'd want to be her boyfriend.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Elizabeelzebubeth on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:35 am

I think the only hope for her is to be reincarnated as a boll weevil and start all over again.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Gregor on Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:53 am

Leonard Cohen
Leonard Cohen's fans might have reason to thank Kelley Lynch
The singer's ordeal at the hands of his former manager has led to a late burst of creativity
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guardian.co.uk, Thursday 19 April 2012 18.29 BST
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Leonard Cohen in Weybridge, Surrey, on his world tour. Photograph: Matt Kent/Redferns
Leonard Cohen, presumably, feels nothing but anger towards Kelley Lynch, who stole from him and harassed him and has now ended up with a prison sentence for doing so. Cohen's fans, however, might feel a little more tolerant towards his former manager. After all, it was the need to top up his pension fund following her depredations that led to his remarkable creative rebirth over the past four years.

First came the world tour that began in May 2008 – when Cohen was 73 – and lasted, barring various breaks for illness and injury, until December 2010, covering 189 shows. Then, earlier this year, came Old Ideas, his first album since Dear Heather in 2004. Both tour and album were greeted with the kind of reverent ecstasy reserved for those who long ago reserved their place in the pantheon of pop greatness.

Cohen's deep groan of a voice, and his ironic nickname of "Laughing Len", have often disguised the humour – however black – that lurks at the heart of Cohen's work. And this most cerebral of songwriters is happy to demystify his own songwriting process. "I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. They tend to become slogans," he told the Guardian's Dorian Lynskey earlier this year. "They tend to be on the right side of things: ecology or vegetarianism or antiwar. All these are wonderful ideas but I like to work on a song until those slogans, as wonderful as they are and as wholesome as the ideas they promote are, dissolve into deeper convictions of the heart."

Cohen's return has also banished one fearful spectre from the musical landscape – the notion, which seemed entirely possible before his comeback – that he might be best remembered as that bloke who wrote the song all the talent show contestants sing. Hallelujah indeed for Leonard Cohen.
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Re: Kelley Lynch convicted on violation of restraining order

Postby Geoffrey on Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:36 pm

>Leonard Cohen, presumably, feels nothing but anger towards Kelley Lynch, who stole from him and harassed him . . .

I doubt very much whether anyone who knows the forgiving and gentle heart of Leonard Cohen would agree with this. Disappointment mixed with a little bit of anger, quite possibly, but not "nothing but anger" - that is so wrong!
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