Diane wrote: It's hard to accept that there are some journeys you have to make alone.
you must go there alone.
Plotinus distinguishes three cognitive stages. (1) In sensory experience we are provided with images which, however, are not always or universally reliable. (2) Reason, the theoretical part of the individual soul, then works on the images so as to transcend sensory experience [a] and facilitate the practice of science and philosophy [I, 3]. (3) [For example, VI, 9.] The soul then passes beyond this to become united with nous before finally enjoying a mystical and ecstatic union with the One [b], in which it loses all consciousness of itself. This is what Plotinus calls "the flight of the alone to the Alone" [VI, 9, ix].
Then for a thousand years, or the rest of the afternoon, such a One spins
Mat wrote: Have you ever seen a "whirly whirly"? A little dust storm that swirls around nearby your camp picking up dust and sand and tumble weeds like a tiny little cyclone?
Tineke wrote: Lately a friend of mine also mentioned the similarities between Sufi music and the arrangement of Who By Fire. In fact she made a copy of this song for a Sufi friend of hers who had never heard of Leonard Cohen but who recognized this as Sufi music.
The name Gnawa is taken from one of the indigenous Languages of the Sahara Desert called Tamazight... Gnawa musicians are practitioners of a musical-spiritual tradition rooted in Sufism, a mystical strain of Islam. The Gnawa tradition has its deepest roots in the Arab slave trade, in which sub-Saharan Africans were kidnapped and brought north over the desert to the Maghreb, in modern-day Morocco and Algeria, though today there is no ethnic dimension to it. Gnawa musicians, mystics, and dancers provide a communication conduit between people and the jinn, unseen beings of smokeless fire that are important not to anger. The word is the source of our "genie". Gnawas play deeply hypnotic trance music, marked by low-toned, rhythmic sintir (guimbri) melodies, call-and-response singing, hand clapping and cymbals. Many modern Western scholars see parallels between Gnawa music and African American music such as the blues, that is rooted in African-American slave songs. This influence also resonates from other spiritual Saharan groups and these similarities are seen as reflecting a shared experience of many African diasporic groups.
What Should We Do about that Moon?
A wine bottle fell from a wagon
And broke open in a field.
That night hundred beetles and all their cousins
And did some serious binge drinking.
They even found some seed husks nearby
And began to play them like drums and whirl.
This made God very happy.
Then the 'night candle' rose into the sky
And one drunk creature, laying down his instrument
Said to his friend - for no apparent
"What should we do about that moon?"
Seems to Hafiz
Most everyone has laid aside the music
Tackling such profoundly useless
From The Gift - Poems by Hafiz the Great Sufi Master,
translation by Daniel Ladinsky
Diane wrote:Doron I don't really know this Bejart Bolero ballet to which you refer, so ingnorance is bliss here, to me. Maybe if I knew this original, I would see the flaws in the interpretation in the video Mat posted, but I did thoroughly enjoy the drama of the Ravel part. Anyway, peasants have always danced in the caves while the cultured (possibly a little stiffly) enjoyed their more refined art;-)
I was wondering too what would be Sufi in particular about Who by Fire.
Diane wrote: I am loving everyone's posts here
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