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Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:57 pm
by jarkko
Now when we finally have the bench, it is time to take the next step: how to spend the rest of the funds of our 2014 fund raising campaign.

We have two thirds of our funds still unused. We did not want to spend any of this reserve as long as the bench project was uncompleted.

Thanks to the Municipality, problems with the Historical Office in Athens and the legal battle at the High Court did not cause any extra costs to us.

In 2014 it was decided that the extra money will be used to charity and social projects on the island. We have asked the Municipality to make a list of ideas for our consideration. Probably the money will be used to 4-5 projects.

More info will be posted when we know more!!!

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:35 pm
by Mabeanie1
I am a little bit shocked that so little of the money has been spent on the main project. Given 2/3 of the funds raised for a permanent tribute to Leonard are unused, is there scope for another memorial of some sort elsewhere as well as the charity projects? Montreal has been mentioned and I am conscious that there are all sorts of things going on there at the moment. There would surely still be money left over for charity projects on Hydra but surely people did not donate €1,000s for that purpose?

I would be interested in other people's thought.

Wendy

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:38 pm
by rmura
At some point, maybe years from now, the bench will probably need some repair work. What about putting some of the money into a fund for maintenance of the Hydra bench?

I'll support whatever the group decides.

Ron

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:36 pm
by Goldin
Good point, Ron (and I'm echoing the last phrase too).
Anyway, knowing nothing about benches, I hope it won't require the double cost of its construction for maintenance in the nearby future (still it's better to have some amount of money for this purpose)...

Personally, I'm thinking about - yes - charity projects on Hydra (as was discussed here on the Forum)
and / or
some kind of LC commemoration in (alternatives) Montreal; Los Angeles; host cities for the forthcoming Big Events.

Also, we're just two years away from the next jubilee...

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:19 pm
by jarkko
Ron & Roman
this was already discussed on Hydra. We will keep some reserve for the maintenance.
It is clear that the wooden back of the bench will not last forever (the climate is very demanding).
However, it is easy to replace.
There is always also a risk of graffiti and other outrage (the plaque can be stolen etc.) so it is good to have some money to spend. (Municipality of Hydra is the legal owner of the bench and they also have promised to keep it in good condition)

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:12 pm
by its4inthemorning
I can see this turning into an endless discussion as there will be many viewpoints.

To keep things simple, I propose that Jarkko determines what reserve is needed for maintenance and thus identifies the surplus available for other purposes. Then Jarkko asks Adam and Lorca to decide what to use that surplus for, whether it be Hydra charities, some sort of small memorial in Parc du Prtugal in Montreal, or whatever.

This places the decision in the hands of those most likely to know what Leonard would want.

Just my humble opinion.

4

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:48 pm
by Brian M
I think "4" makes a very commendable comment and suggestion.

Brian

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:03 am
by 199Dan
A fund for music in the islands or town's schools in Leonard's honor ?

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:23 am
by AlanM
its4inthemorning wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:12 pm
I can see this turning into an endless discussion as there will be many viewpoints.

To keep things simple, I propose that Jarkko determines what reserve is needed for maintenance and thus identifies the surplus available for other purposes. Then Jarkko asks Adam and Lorca to decide what to use that surplus for, whether it be Hydra charities, some sort of small memorial in Parc du Prtugal in Montreal, or whatever.

This places the decision in the hands of those most likely to know what Leonard would want.

Just my humble opinion.

4
Ditto

Alan

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:25 am
by Goldin
Sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure why should we, the contributors, lose our voice. The community has done well with several projects, including the one with the Bench (which was originaly an idea by Anne Porter, that got support 5 days/40 posts after being proposed). Let's not be afraid of "endless discussion", sooner or later (I dare say, sooner) we'd make a perfect decision.

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:02 pm
by harald
The bench is there. Hurrah and finally. Our thanks have to go to Jarkko fur his endurance in persecuting our goal. It´s like that sometimes: We decide something on the forum and leave the rest to Jarkko.
As I consider Jarkko´s character, it was neither a small burden for him, to be in charge of spending the money collected responsibly as close to the donators´ wish as possible.
If we now have more than half of the amount left, it is our own fault, we just gave too much. There would be no advantage if the bench had cost more or if we had have to cover legal fees just to spend more money on the project.
Around the donation process in 2014 the forum, probably mainly the donators, agreed on spending the extra money, aside of some spare for bench restaurations, on social projects in Hydra (I wasn´t even much for that - Hydra does not seem to me to be a especially needy place on earth - but that was agreed to).
Accordingly Jarkko now started the process by asking the municipality for a list of projects.
I do not think it helpful now to come up with different ideas - complicating things for Jarkko and differing from the donators´ wish from 2014.
So for me: Let´s just go on as agreed and already started by Jarkko.
No need to start a new discussion.

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:04 pm
by crystal
Absolutely agree with Harald. When we decided on the bench project we discussed what wh should do if there was money left. We decided on spending it on social projects on Hydra. This was reason for me to double my donation. We should stick to this decision.
Christel

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:31 am
by 199Dan
Music for the schools !

Re: Next Step: Charity projects

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:35 pm
by jarkko
I have posted a letter we received from the Mayor here:viewtopic.php?f=83&t=37539