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Clothing Time

Postby mnkyface » Thu May 14, 2009 11:41 pm

From YouTube vids it looks like LC went back to wearing the doublebreasted pinstripe suit in Philadelphia; the one he was wearing in the first leg Canada/Europe 08.

Hasn't he been wearing the single button suit for most of this North American tour?

I have a very deep knowledge of this (lol) because in Oakland on 4/13, when he was reciting 1000 Kisses and he said "been working out but it's too late", he unbuttoned his jacket sauvely with one hand (other was holding the mic of course). He did not do this on 4/14, though he was still wearing the single button suit.
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby burningviolin » Tue May 19, 2009 6:17 pm

I know nothing about suits I must say but was just looking at some you tube footage and am thinking to myself with all the kneeling he does on stage he must go through trouser knees quite often!
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby mnkyface » Thu May 21, 2009 1:21 am

You're so right BV. The kneeling is awesome but it must be hard on the suits! He's doing it more than ever it seems.

I wonder what is on his bolo tie. Anyone know?
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby mnkyface » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:11 am

Came across a good close-up of the bolo: http://imgs.sapo.pt/gfx/453751.gif

Close-up is an understatement. You can practically smell his aftershave when you open this pic. Warning: this picture is ENORMOUS. :shock: :D

And then there is The Visible Bead of Sweat. Right between the crow's feet and the sideburn. Not that I've been staring at it for the last 15 minutes or anything, no siree. :roll: :lol:
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby Maarten » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:43 pm

Mnkyface,

That's a really great picture, especially the size :-)
Now you have discovered what's on his bolo tie, I suspect nothing less from you than to find an explanation for all the symbols on it and why Leonard Cohen is wearing this one specifically.

Start your detective work! (and let me know ASAP)

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Re: Clothing Time

Postby Maarten » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:10 pm

mnkyface,
I couldn't resist doing some research myself...

Here's the bolo tie of Leonard Cohen:
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It says "Camargue" on top, which is an area in the south of France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue) so I googled some Camargue symbols and came upon this one:

The Gardians Cross, symbol of the Camargue
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http://www.languedoc-roussillon.eu.com/ ... margue.htm


I have to stop my research now, because the kids are asking to go to the park to try out their "Heelies"... :roll:

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Re: Clothing Time

Postby mnkyface » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:30 pm

Thanks Maarten! I found this similar link: http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2288

The horses connection is fascinating too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue_(horse)

And I found this alarming article, though it is from 2000 so hopefully the situation has righted itself:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... orses.html

This is all so fascinating. Maybe this should be moved out of NA Tour to a more general category! Learning of Leonard's interest in the Camargue makes me rethink so many of his lyrics involving horses, the sea, etc...

Now I want to know...how long has he had this particular bolo? I saw him in Lyon in July 08, and I believe he wasn't wearing it yet, just the buttoned up grey shirt. I wonder if it is something he picked up while travelling through that region last year. Perhaps it was a gift. The question is- when did he first wear it on the tour?
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby ladydi » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:14 pm

Someone must have been doing some shopping in the south of France because I noticed that at the next concert his bolo was just the Camargue cross. Very nice. Hmmm, perhaps special gifts?
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby mnkyface » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:28 am

So there is actually MORE THAN ONE bolo??
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby ladydi » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:34 pm

I noticed the second one in photos from the Molde concert!
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby DrHGuy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:17 pm

At least to my presbyopic eyes, these three bolo tie slides look different from one another and different from the one already depicted. And, one more to follow in separate post.
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby DrHGuy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:36 pm

Oops, I originally thought this bolo tie slide shown in the photo used in the Rolling Stone interview seemed different from the others already pictured, but now I see it appears the same as the one worn in the Beacon concert. My apologies.


For what it's worth, the Mother Jones wrap-up of Coachella describes Leonard Cohen's bolo tie as "cheeky."

Re the double breasted suit issue, I quote myself upon seeing Cohen wearing the pin striped, double breasted suit in Lorca's photo of him rehearsing prior to the tour:
Why does he look like an illustration for the dictionary definition of “dapper” wearing a double breasted jacket while 97% of the men that don them (including Dave Letterman, who wears one almost every night on his show) resemble nothing else as much as a corpse being fitted for a shroud?
Finally, I suggest the definitive insight on the Leonard Cohen fashion line would be the sagacious and astute observation made by that perspicacious pair of musical philosophers, ZZ Top:
They come runnin’ just as fast as they can
‘Cause every girl crazy ’bout a sharp dressed man.
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby DrHGuy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:57 pm

Now all the tie slides are starting to look the same and different on alternate takes. This slide from the Nice show seems distinctive - or I may just be going psychotic.
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Re: Clothing Time

Postby ladydi » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:23 pm

Hi DrHGuy,

I've been reviewing the various photos and think there are only 2 of the Camargue bolos...the one with simply the cross, and the other which has several symbols. As always though, with Leonard, he has impeccable good taste!

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Re: Clothing Time

Postby Maarten » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:37 am

Hi,
I moved this topic to the "Comments and questions" section.

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