Go No More A Roving

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Postby jurica » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:18 pm

i think it's about generation. like, me and my friends will go no more...
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Postby icecreamtruck » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:07 pm

Yes....but it is also a personal song....
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Postby linda_lakeside » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:10 am

Hi there,

Don't you think that practically all of Leonard's material is what one would call 'personal'? We all seem to relate in a very personal way to his material. Everyday we see testimonials to the power of Leonard's lyrics/poems.

In this particular song, he chose Byron's poem very carefully, I would think, and turned it into something that people of Byron's 'future' are still talking about.

And re: Tom's quote, he isn't/wasn't blind to what this particular poem might mean to others. This is the kind of artist/writer who will be 'in the books' when future historians read about our culture.

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Postby Rob » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:49 pm

I have just recieved an e-mail from UK radio 4's "Poetry Please" to tell me that Byrons "We'll go no more a roving" will feature on the programme when it returns on May 15th. They also told me that Leonards "Now of sleeping" will remain on file and they will "let you know if/when it is to feature in a future programme".

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Postby linda_lakeside » Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:57 pm

You in the UK seem to be getting a lot of Leonard these days. Our CBC (your BBC) has been letting us down. In a normal year we see/hear quite a bit about Leonard, old and new, but lately, not much.

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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby linda_lakeside » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:56 am

Funny thing. I rec'd a topic notification for this thread, after such a very long, long time. So, I may as well go on record by saying that Leonard's so called 'tribute' to Irving Layton (great poet that he was), was a lazy rip off (of Byron's poem of course), set to muzak at a the very last minute to squeeze it onto Dear Heather (along with the tortuous On That Day). Leonard knew Layton was dying - so why the last minute 'tribute'? Surely to god he could have whipped up something original.

I've recently read Layton' s Droppings from Heaven, and ... I 'could' be wrong, but it sounded as if Layton took a few swipes at Leonard in the forward. But hey, this post is my opinion only.
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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby Goldin » Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:05 pm

linda_lakeside wrote:set to muzak at a the very last minute to squeeze it onto Dear Heather (along with the tortuous On That Day)

Three years between 9/11 and the release (Oct 2004). Is it really a "very last minute" (even for measured life of LC)?
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Postby linda_lakeside » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:22 pm

OK, you're right. So why did he even bother? Most of LC's fans (by remarks made in this very forum) could have lived without On That Day. Given the time from 9/11 to the actual 'release' of Dear Heather, On That Day disappoints even more than it did when I first thought about it. Mind you, the song was included in the album's material either long before the release, or was squeezed in at the last minute. I suppose Tom Sakic would know more about the order of things than I do.

I just think, as Leonard and Layton were such long-time friends, and Layton was sick for a long while, that Leonard could have given Layton a better send-off. If you get a chance, read the forward to Layton's Droppings from Heaven. It may be my imagination. but it sounded like there may have been a bit of a fall-out there. But, all I have is an opinion.
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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby leonardmtl » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:35 pm

linda_lakeside wrote:OK, you're right. So why did he even bother? Most of LC's fans (by remarks made in this very forum) could have lived without On That Day. Given the time from 9/11 to the actual 'release' of Dear Heather, On That Day disappoints even more than it did when I first thought about it. Mind you, the song was included in the album's material either long before the release, or was squeezed in at the last minute. I suppose Tom Sakic would know more about the order of things than I do.

I just think, as Leonard and Layton were such long-time friends, and Layton was sick for a long while, that Leonard could have given Layton a better send-off. If you get a chance, read the forward to Layton's Droppings from Heaven. It may be my imagination. but it sounded like there may have been a bit of a fall-out there. But, all I have is an opinion.



It seems to me that the dedication was less a "send-off" and more like a conversation between old friends, ...almost like they were in summer camp again ( which was Camp Pripsteins in the 50's), sitting around a campfire late at night together.......but now, fifty years later, musing, as the embers slowly burn out, about the past and the evolution of their sexual experiences .......mirroring a universal commentary on the cycle of a life . Simple, poignant and unvarnished, just like Leonard's work in general.
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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby linda_lakeside » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:25 pm

Send off/conversation...who knows. I came to a different conclusion after reading the forward to Layton's Droppings from Heaven. But, that was published in the late '70s - and is so much water under the bridge.

Once again, we can only guess how everything came together. The writing and release of Dear Heather was a pivotal time in Leonard's life/career, also Leonard has been known to be disingenuous from time to time, as have we all. Time changes our circumstances and how we feel about those around us. An ever so slight shift of the fates and we're looking at the world from an entirely different perspective.

I wasn't trying to push my opinion - I merely posted in the wake of reading Layton's old poetry.
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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby apple » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:34 pm

i love it. (I've learned so much about recording and music here.. a different genre I guess. I am familiar with studio recording.)

I hope you record far into the future. Leonard.
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Re: Go No More A Roving

Postby AlexandraLaughing » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:32 pm

I disliked Go No More the first time I heard it- I also thought it was pretty much

linda_lakeside wrote:a lazy rip off (of Byron's poem of course), set to muzak ...


and that if you're going to reuse a folksong, you should at least make sure the tune is as good as the original. But I grew to like it over several playings.

However, I don't think it's only (sort of) tribute to Layton on that album. But that is just a guess. I would agree that there clearly was some bad blood between the two at some stage.
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Postby Alishibaz » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:05 pm

jurica wrote:i think Tom Sakic has the point:
Byron did use 'we', but Leonard could have chosen some other song which is about 'me' if he wanted. i think he chose this one BECAUSE this 'we', and 'going a-roving' just in the way the interview applies.

icecreamtruck, you shouldn't get offended EVER on this or any other forum. things that are written down have greater impact, and there's no smiling, well meaning face behind them, and therefore we all feel more offended than we would in real life. hell, even this what i'm writting may offend you, since it sounds so 'i'm smart, you stupid, i'll teach you', but if i told you this in person - it would sound completely different.

i'm on this forum quite some time, and i've seen many people leave it because they felt they were offended, when in truth (looking form my perspective) they had no real reason.


Wise words indeed, Jurica.

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